No Weekend Whistle Blowing In Montclair...

I have no interest in the trains running on the weekend. That is just my opinion.
The fact is though that even on lines that have twice the ridership, (Morris and Essex lines come to mind) the individual lines run every two hours on the weekends and then once an hour from Summit (as both lines join there). Therefore, if they are going to have service every two hours on a much more populated line, what are they going to do on a less populated line like the Montclair line-the one with the least ridership of all? If a train every three hours sounds great, then hooray. If not, dont expect much here, as there just isnt the demand.
Please dont waste your time telling me the ridership is the same on both, as that will just prove you havent lived on and riden both lines.

With a son living in Brooklyn, a weekend train would be great, but not running at the same frequency as the M-F trains. Perhaps once an hour or even every other hour, from 9am - 11pm. It shouldn't take a 8-car train, just something like a 3-car train. But then again, what do I know about trains? I want an alternative to the DeCamp bus!

RUN THE TRAINS ON THE WEEKENDS! We pay the same taxes as everyone else in NJ to support the NJ Transit system - we should be getting the same full service, which includes weekend service. This is especially true given that NJT operates no direct service, including buses, from the area into the city. How can you deny service to an entire region because a few people in Montclair don't want a little noise? Is this how you operate a regional transit system?? If the residents of upper montclair really don't want the service - fine. Start the trains from The Bay St. station and hit the GR and Bloomfield stations. Eventually, the residents of all Montclair will demand the same service. I guarentee it!

The quiet zone rule is going to get sticky especially since while NJ TRANSIT may provide the hardware, it will be
Montclair's responsibility to apply for quiest zone designation and assume liability. It may be more worth it to install automated train horns at the grade crossings instead.

The libs who bought their homes next to the train tracks are gonna scream bloody murder.

Train service on weekends doesn't stand a chance once the decibel police get a hold a this

run the trains on the weekends. if you live too close to the tracks, tough shit

run the trains on the weekends. if you live too close to the tracks, tough doo doo

I agree with Todd on this. South Orange has had weekend service for years and you don't hear them griping and moaning.

The demand has been year for years.

yes, please run the trains on the weekends. if you live too close to the tracks, that is your problem!

The demand has been HERE for years.

PLEASE run the trains on the weekends.

yes, i am forced to agree - run the trains on the weekends. if you live too close to the tracks, perhaps you should move away from the tracks.

Weekend service wouldn't be so bad from Montclair if it weren't so slow getting into midtown. It works for other towns mentioned because they don't have as many stops.

Issues aside for Decamp (and I'm not a huge fan), it is still the best public transportation option into the city on the weekends. Why choose a train that takes 1 hour when you can take a bus that takes 30 minutes?

Hey Commuter-

If you need the train on the weekends, perhaps you should move to the city.

Since I live along the tracks, I'm not a fan of weekend service anyway but jimmy229oz has it right.

My location provides me a clear view of one of the towns's more popular stations. Apart from prime commuting times, there's almost no one using the service during the day. I've used it to go into NY for a show on Friday nights -- again very few people get on in Montclair.

Count my vote for weekend service.

(Oh, and Hiding is still a douchebag.)

Given everybody's concern over lessening our dependence on oil, I think that it's great that all these people who take cars into the city on weekends will no longer need to. When I think that I will be able to read a book and relax without sitting in horrendous traffic and paying an arm and a leg for parking, I'm all for it. And, FWIW, the train passes a block away from my house.

Makes Sense:

Actually, when you factor in the hour and a half late time DeCamp runs on weekends, that half hour goes up to a full two.

Of course, this could improve if they found themselves facing competition.

Thanks for the personal and junior high level attack Rchanin!

I'm one house removed from the tracks. Weekend service would be fine.

Partial weekend service seems like a fine idea. once every couple of hours on saturday. or, as someone suggested on another thread a while back, morning trains and evening trains, but not all day.

and make it a small train.

then, wouldn't everyone be appeased?

Partial weekend service seems like a fine idea. once every couple of hours on saturday. or, as someone suggested on another thread a while back, morning trains and evening trains, but not all day.

and make it a small train.

then, wouldn't everyone be appeased?

Partial weekend service seems like a fine idea. once every couple of hours on saturday. or, as someone suggested on another thread a while back, morning trains and evening trains, but not all day.

and make it a small train.

then, wouldn't everyone be appeased?

What's gonna happen for all the Upper Montclair weekend travelers who don't have a station?

It's not fair that they have to put up with all the whistles and don't have a station.

Yes, partial weekend service with a small train sounds fair. Or am I not seeing all the angles? PS, I live across the street from the tracks. While I won't like the noise, I will like the convenience.

I would love weekend service. When I moved here a year and a half ago, I had no idea that there wasn't weekend service; my fault, but I assumed that everywhere with trains running had it - apparently everyone but the Montclair Line. I'd be happy even if it only went as far as Bay St.

DeCamp is far too undependable on the weekends. They know they're your only hope and it affects service. It's delightful waiting 45 minutes for a bus in 16 degree weather (I know from experience). And it definitely takes more than half an hour on the weekend when I've taken it. Honestly, sometimes I'll drive into Jersey City or Hoboken & take the PATH, or to North Bergen and take the bus because it's better and more reliable than DeCamp.

I agree Hiding is a queen douchebag and has no life. You see this douche post about everything. Do you have a job? His word isn't worth shit. As far as the train, why do I pay monthly service for 5 days! It bullshit I tell you.

Um, damnit..don't you realize that anyone posting without a name shows up as "Hiding in Baristaville"?

We are legion.

I love playing with anal toys. Can someone send me a gerbil?

I'd love to see you Uppers come to Bay Street. Come and walk in my neighborhood punks!

Right now the only other line without weekend service is the Pascask Valley Line and the Montclair line has twice the ridership. The Montclair-Boonton line has also grown exponentially over the years, and actually had the greatest increase in ridership from 2006-2007 of all the NJT lines. It probably won't reach the levels of the Morris&Essex but with an additional 52 days of service throughout the year, it could get closer to the raritan Valley line.

This has nothing to do with being a liberal (which I'm beginning to think is just a label that is attributed to anyone with a disagreeing point of view) or conservative but a NIMBY issue.

But if we were to make it a political issue, Democrats are more likely to support public transportation policies than Republicans. "So can't you hear:, it sounds more like you're the one concerned with the weekend service.

"We are legion."

Like cancer.

"Count my vote for weekend service.

(Oh, and Hiding is still a douchebag.)"

Please note that "Hiding" isn't just one douche bag, but an assortment of diverse douche bags from various backgrounds and locales, each with their own distinct douche baggy opinions and/or comments.

This has been a paid announcement from the Douche Bag Collective. Thank you for rading this, and have a pleasant afternoon.

"Please note that "Hiding" isn't just one douche bag, but an assortment of diverse douche bags from various backgrounds and locales, each with their own distinct douche baggy opinions and/or comments."

True dat.

"...Democrats are more likely to support public transportation policies than Republicans. "So can't you hear:, it sounds more like you're the one concerned with the weekend service."

Sorry pal.

Evidently you are not from here.

Train service and MTD have been a thorn in the side of the libs for YEARS.

The libs here pay lip service to "mass Transit policies" but the reality is they think MT is too noisy and too dirty and makes "me" late too often, and they hate MTD.

How can we be talking about such unimportant nonsense, when Anna Nicole Smith just died!

I find it incredible we live 12 miles from a cultural center of the world and the public transportation is so lousy.

I regularly go into the city for saturday mantinees and take decamp at 11:00 to make sure I get to a 1:30 curtain because ya' never know what the traffic will be. I've seen many in a panic because the bus is pulling into the station with only minutes to spare to get to their show.

I'm assuming trains don't have to deal with the car traffic DeCamp faces. I'm sorry that those living near train tracks are upset at having train noise on the weekend as well as the weekday, but you have to realize that one reason housing values are so high in this area is because TRAINS are RUNNING ON THOSE TRACKS!

It would be nice if decamp ran more frequently on the weekend...too many saturday buses are standing room only with some riders left at the curb. I'm sure infrequent riders are discouraged by the iffy service and often resort to global-warming vehicles instead of opting for healther option of public transportation.

My vote: bring on the trains! It's about time!

I'm sorry " Can't you hear the liberals blowin'" that's your third try at liberal bating on this thread, but it seems everyone is in agreement about weekend service.

Too bad, but thanks for playing! Everyone, give him a big hand...

"Liberals, won't ya blow/Liberals, won't ya blow, liberals won't ya blow your hoooorrnnnn!"

"but it seems everyone is in agreement...."

Maybe so, but..

Just wait till ya hear the whistle blowin'

it'll sound something like this:

"If I knew then what I know now...." Pant Suit Jan 2007

or

"I voted for the $87 Billion before I voted against it"
John F Kerry March 2003

Enjoy the ride. I am

Bust my buffers! Thomas, Kind Edward, and Gordon are all in favor of weekend schedules. They are very useful engines. . . Bring em on!

Run those trains on the weekends. It'll be good for overall property values in this town .

Of course the trains should run on the weekends! The town needs to get w/ the 21st Century! Who wants to be stuck in traffic driving into the city or taking the bus? Frankly, I'm surprised that an urban town like Montclair DOESN'T have weekend train service by now.

Posted by: Can't you hear the liberals blowin'

dude : your vote does not count anymore. Remember?

Pantsuit Jan... is that what we're calling the secretary of state these days? I hate to say it, but suits HAVE PANTS.

If you want politicians to put on a leg show for you, go to Mark Foley's house and watch the Pageboy Cabaret.

You should say No to the trains. Say Yes to NJ Transit buses direct to NY PA. Let's face it. The train blows. Its always late, smells, and has to stop ten times before we get to Penn. The only benefit is there is a bathroom. The bus does not. Lets get rid of DeCrap and get our money's worth for once in this overpriced ghettopolis.

My bro lives right next to the station in South Orange and it's not loud at all.

The way they talk about noise, it's like it's that scene from Blue Brothers where they visit Elwood's apartment.

My vote for weekend service wouldn't count because I live in Little Falls.

I think I'm still voting for weekday service there.

I don't think we even have a train line.

Gary.

Can anyone explain the Quiet Zone situation? My understanding is that currently NJT uses train whistles at grade crossings between 7am to 7pm - this is purely an agreement between NJT and the town of Montclair. I also understand that new federal regulations will require that whistles always be used at grade crossings at any time of day unless better crossing gates are installed. I also heard that Montclair has applied to be a quiet zone (along with Westfield, NJ). Does anyone know when the new crossing gates need to be installed and whether Montclair will ever be a 24x7 quiet zone?

I always jest to people, the Oval Office is the kind of place where people stand outside, they're getting ready to come in and tell me what for, and they walk in and get overwhelmed by the atmosphere. And they say 'man, you're looking pretty.' " George W. Bush —Washington, D.C., Nov. 4, 2004

I want my train right now. I want service that doesn't have to stop at Secaucus. I want pancakes too!

My bro lives right next to the station in South Orange and it's not loud at all.

The way they talk about noise, it's like it's that scene from Blue Brothers where they visit Elwood's apartment.

My vote for weekend service wouldn't count because I live in Little Falls.

I think I'm still voting for weekday service there.

I don't think we even have a train line.

Gary.

"Montclair will ever be a 24x7 quiet zone?"

This place?

not a chance too many liberals blowin'

George B. wants to drill for our traintracks for our disturbing our precious wildlife.

I live near the tracks and I'll take the occasional horn toot in exchange for weekend service.
I am disappointed that people concerned with global warming, air polution, traffic are still eager to block mass transit.
I don't think this is a Demo vs. Repub issue, although I suspect that people living closer to the tracks are mostly Demos.
I agree with Candide that it is incredible we live 12 miles from a cultural center of the world and the public transportation is so lousy.

"I regularly go into the city for saturday mantinees and take decamp at 11:00 to make sure I get to a 1:30 curtain because ya' never know what the traffic will be. I've seen many in a panic because the bus is pulling into the station with only minutes to spare to get to their show."

Yeah, that train that will run every three hours will get you there quicker.

mmmmmmm......pancakes

It's a quality of life issue.

The fact remains that the people who bought their houses close to the train bought them knowing they weren't going to have their houses rattled on the weekends.

How about trains that don't run every hour on the weekend? I doubt it would be cost-effective to run them that often.

"People who bought their houses close to the train bought them knowing they weren't going to have their houses rattled on the weekends"

Really?

typical lib.

Thinks she "knows" everything

Maybe the trains will drown out the leaf-blowers.

Blowin'

Throw the bait out there a few more times. Someone will bite eventually.

The Final Train Whistle Ruling by the FRA said that trains must blow their horns when approaching an at-grade crossing.

Communities may apply to the FRA for quiet zone designation if they reduce the risk at that cross below the Nationwide Significant Risk Threshold (NSRT). The risk is considered raised because the train horn is considered an effective warning device and when removed, that must be mitigated. This can be done using supplemental safety measures (SSM). More info can be found on the FRA website.

People didn't by their houses with fact that there wouldn't be any trains on the weekend seeing how trains run through the area starting very early in the morning and as late as 12:40am in the night. Or at least they shouldn't have.

I'd actually like to see extended Friday night service.

FTWR, FRA, NSRT, SSM................

Acronyms because of liberal (blowin') lawsuits

I am all for the weekend service. If Montclair people don't want the noise then have them run a shuttle from Bloomfield to Newark and pick up the other line there into the city.

The fact remains that the people who bought their houses close to the train bought them knowing they weren't going to have their houses rattled on the weekends.

Some people may have, but I bought thinking there would be weekend service. I look forward to it.

Maybe every 90 minutes or 2 hours?

Let's figure this out. People purchase a home near train tracks and expect to dictate to the RR when to run the train. That's having foresight and not being selfish. I could buy a house near an airport and expect the planes not to fly on week-ends. How about buying a house next to the dump and not wanting it to smell on week-ends. Too bad, besides my chauffeur is off on the week-ends.

Maybe your house will go up in value if they run trains on the weekend....does that change your mind?

If you don't like the train on the weekends, what do you do during the week?

And, as pointed out here before....what value to a monthly pass if you can only use it 5/6 of its shelf life?

I don't think this is a scientific study since most of the blowhards on this site turn out to not live in Montclair anyway...
Personally, I live two houses from the tracks. I bought here because I wanted access to public transportation. I think it's an amazing cop out for NJT to play the "we hear there is some interest" game. You have a train line, people want service on it. Individuals who won't benefit may vocalize about it for selfish reasons but for the betterment of the community bring on the weekend service.
I've never understood how in this day and age of 24/7 tvs, stereos and whatever else creating constant noise, and with A/C and heat blasting and windows shut all but two months a year, how the train whistle really bothers anyone all that much.
Call me crazy but aside from the 1 diesel train every hour or so (which these weekend trains would not be) I hardly notice the train.

To the jerk complaining about liberals in Montclair: Why don't you move to Bloomfield where all the Archie Bunker types live. Even Reagan stopped there to make a speech. He had to find the one repube area in this 70/30 Democrat/Republican district.

Yo this train shit is getting out of hand. My homiez can't wait to squat at the Bay Stizza Station. We can rob your privileged asses. You dig

During the week I'm at work. I don't hear it all day. Anyway, i DO like the train on the weekends. Some of my neighbors don't, though.

And no, Suffering, I am not dictating to the RR when they can run their trains, although that DOES seem to be the point of the thread....Anyway, the point I was making is when we bought our house there was not, nor had there ever been, train service on the weekends. And the people in the area said they doubted there ever would be b/c Montclair wouldn't let it happen. And I live by a lot of commuters who use the train during the week but enjoy the break from the train noise during the weekend.

I think a train every couple hours is fine. Back off.

Hi guys,

As a single gal I like the vibrations of the train passing through the hour. My husband doesn't satisfy me so this is the next best thing. My dryer doesn't work and the shower head is been there done that. So keep that great pulsing vibrations coming NJ Transit! You are my heroes!

Yes, you're absolutely right. It's the freaking diesel trains that make all the noise. how do we know the weekend trains wouldn't be diesel? I would love to know that.

But to your other point, not everyone lives like a shut-in, plugged into our TVs, and whatever else. some of us like to live outside, and keep our windows open at night when we sleep. And that whistle is VERY loud. Although I don't hear it now, so I wouldn't expect to hear it on the weekend, either.

Idiot.

No blowing of any kind on the weekend in Bville! NO blowing of ANY body part (noses, etcetera), no blowing out the candles, no blowing a fuse, NOTHING!

If they're running them direct into Y they can't be diesel. Diesel trains are not allowed into NY Penn. That's why they had to electrify the line for Midtown Direct.

"To the jerk complaining about liberals in Montclair: Why don't you move to Bloomfield where all the Archie Bunker types live. Even Reagan stopped there to make a speech. He had to find the one repube area in this 70/30 Democrat/Republican district."

Stifle yourself.

Diesel trains can't run into New York. Only electric trains can run to the city, the rare diesels are Hoboken trains. The added weekend service would consist of electric trains to New York. That's how we know. Those of us who actually live here in Montclair and commute do at least.

Yes, please, have SOME kind of weekend service. I'm freaking tired of driving to South Orange to take the train in on weekends. Even if you FIND a direct bus (out of Willowbrook) the busses are always late, smell bad and the PABS is the grossest thing ever. (Plus, it's dark and disgusting inside.)

The weekend options are the M&E from South Orange or driving to take the PATH. Both suck. I live close to a damn train line, I want service.

For all the whiners saying that they can't stand the whistles, after a while you don't even hear them. I lived once in a neighborhood with FIVE churches that had bells that would chime in succession on the hour, ten after, quarter after, half after, quarter to, and five to. After a week, I never heard it - nor did anyone else who lived there. People who visited asked how we could stand it but we were so used to it that it was white noise to us.

People in Baristaville whine way too much.

bring those weekend trains!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes! I would love to take the train into the city on the weekend. My husband and I can go out to dinner, drink some wine and not have to drive home.

Yes! Run trains on the weekend.

Yes! Run trains on the weekend. I am sure there is a demand.

I feel like cinderella when I have to rush to the station to catch the 1:30 Decamp bus back to Montclair. There must be a need for additional mass transit solutions to the Montclair area becuase the bus is entirely filled every time.

Well... looks like the trains have it !

Whoo-Whoo. That's the sound you will hear Saturdays and Sundays. I'm going to put my hairy bare butt on the window so you can see it everytime too.

"Whoo-Whoo. That's the sound you will hear Saturdays and Sundays. I'm going to put my hairy bare butt on the window so you can see it everytime too."
Posted by: Dingleberries in my crack

New Jersey - One classy place to live!

That's class with a capital "A"!

"I feel like cinderella when I have to rush to the station to catch the 1:30 Decamp bus back to Montclair. There must be a need for additional mass transit solutions to the Montclair area becuase the bus is entirely filled every time."

Dont throw away your slippers Cinderella. The last train to Montclair is 11:50pm. You'll still have to catch that bus.

Who are the people who don't want the weekend service, and why?

Yeah I would finally be able to get to the museums and take my kid into the city or go out. Montclair doesn't want weekend service because people would start going out in the city instead of in their town. Also if you bought a house next to train tracks, guess what? There might be trains!

Yes on weekend train service, please! A big selling point for living in Montclair is the relative closeness to the city, but what good does that do when you can't take the train on the weekend? I'm not a fan of the bus because the delays can be brutal, plus reading and riding the bus tends to make me sick to my stomach. Having grown up in a train-free stretch of the Midwest, I'm thrilled to have train service, and I'd like to have it available on weekends, too.

p.s. Am I the only one who loves the sound of a train whistle? Maybe I'd feel differently if I lived close to the tracks.

It's about time the NJT is making the attempt to offer weekend service. For the folks who live near the railroad, it's going to be a disadvantage because of the noise. There are a lot of benefits. I myself don't have to worry about sitting in traffic on a Decamp bus. Technically, it's faster than the train for folks like me who live in Upper Montclair. However, traffic on Rt 3 can be horrible on weekends. There's not much legroom on the buses and they can be extremely late at times. They can be standing room only. The train will probably take 40 minutes, just like any other off peak weekday train. About the number of cars, I would say anywhere between three to six cars should run, as the electric service doesn't go far. The ridership won't be extremely high. This isn't the NEC. Whenever I travel into the city by train on weekends, i use Orange. I could use either Clifton or Passaic which I'm a little more closer to, but both of them require a change at SEC. About the level of service, at the most, probably run one train in each direction every hour. The least should be every other hour in each direction. When weekend service starts in Mtc, I'm saying by by to weekend Decamp trips and my usage of stations like Orange(for travel into NY and NWK Broad) only.

But Daddy:
I want My Train service too!!

I do!!
I do!!

I also want it filled with ompa-loompas!!
Right NOW!!

"Really? you're a single gal with a husband?"

Hey..........

Leave her alone, she's blond.

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I come from a place where the trains run on the weekends and almost 24 hours. Now that I live in Montclair I would like the same service. Gimme trains on the weekend! Also, run them back from NYC past 11:52. It is SO inconvenient. I work in NYC nights and often have to stay past midnight but can't because of the trains.

Now, I don't know about this living next to the tracks being too loud. We had new windows installed and we can barely notice the trains. Especially the electric ones.

Also, what's with people claiming that the liberals banned noise? I thought that it was the conservatives that didn't want leaf blowers and train horns on the weekends and mornings.

The train noise counter argument comes mostly, I suspect, from people who live nowhere near the tracks. The electric trains that run through Montclair to New York hardly make noise and certainly don't rumble anyone's house. I live probably 50 yards from the tracks so I can say this with some authority.
There is no good reason for no weekend service that I can see. Most of the supposed "reasons" are not based in fact. How about our elected officials lobby on our behalf on this one? It would be a really nice improvement.

The train noise isn't too bad. Its the whistle noise near the crossings that sucks. On weekday mornings I don't need an alarm clock. The 6:58 train whistle blasts me out of bed.

I lived next door to a firehouse at 25th and Federal in Denver. Sirens, clanging bells, air horns @ 2 in the morning. After a couple of weeks It didn't even wake me up anymore

Trains on weekends PLEASE. Imagine how great that'd be brining the kids into town. This is fantastic. Only down side is that it'll raise property values...

I lived near the tracks in Upper Montclair for years. Truth is, after awhile you don't even hear the trains-so that whole noise argument is prety lame

Truth is, after awhile you don't even hear the...

libs anymore.

The residents of Upper Montclair need this type of thing in their lives. They get too comfortable in the mountain temples and drive the rest of us lower class citizens bizerk when they come into our shops demanding the insane.

screw montclair, I just want the train to hit Bloomfield Ave. Build a garage free to residents, but $5 an hour to non-residents and make my town some money.

One more vote for weekend train service.

Many people from the suburbs, even if "of a certain age," actually grew up with active 24/7 railroad tracks near them, thus got (and continue to get) what Johnny Cash was really on about with a song like "I Heard That Lonesome Whistle Blow," what trains meant to the likes of Hank Williams and Roy Acuff, etc.

That many folks in Baristaville, contrastingly, can get so frothy about the mere possibility of weekend train service and the "noise" such service might generate, however, merely speaks very badly about the emotional sparseness of their upbringing and current lives.

Decades after his assassination, millions and millions of people claimed to recall having seen Lincoln's funeral train with his catafalque on it wend its roundabout way back to Illinois. Many of these same people, interestingly, had at the time lived nowhere near the route the funeral train had taken, but such was the emotional impact of railroads upon a somewhat different America. It would be a shame to deny others the chance to hear a lonesome whistle blow yet again in 2007 because its seconds-long wailing at 7:14 PM on a Saturday evening might "disturb" a few suburban grumps whose offspring at least might greatly profit from the aural experience.

Decades after his assassination, millions and millions of people claimed to recall having seen Lincoln's funeral train with his catafalque on it wend its roundabout way back to Illinois.

I heard Air Force One fly over my house with Reagan's coffin on it's way back to California.

I swear I did.

If you want to be dumb ior snide, Pork Roll, it first helps to recall that Reagan in fact died in California. Not "on it's (sic) way back" there.

Lest I confuse you with someone genuinely addled like laserboy. For your penance, you should be made to park for a few hours on that part of the approach ramp to Newark Liberty where the limos wait, there to try and identify various jets by the sounds their engines make.

Gee ..I thought Reagan died in office !! Oh wait, that was just his demeanor .

To chime in, Pork Roll may be right about Air Force 1. Cathar should do fact finding before trying to put someone down ---> Washington honored President Reagan, in a capital cooled by gray skies and summer rain, his life and legacy had been celebrated in a funeral service at the National Cathedral, after two days of lying in state at the Capitol, where more than 100,000 people had filed past to pay their respects.
Reagan's flag-draped casket was accompanied to California by his family aboard a presidential jet. When the plane touched down at Point Mugu Naval Air Station, it was also greeted by thousands of people waiting to pay their final respects.

To chime in, Pork Roll may be right about Air Force 1. Cathar should do fact finding before trying to put someone down ---> Washington honored President Reagan, in a capital cooled by gray skies and summer rain, his life and legacy had been celebrated in a funeral service at the National Cathedral, after two days of lying in state at the Capitol, where more than 100,000 people had filed past to pay their respects.
Reagan's flag-draped casket was accompanied to California by his family aboard a presidential jet. When the plane touched down at Point Mugu Naval Air Station, it was also greeted by thousands of people waiting to pay their final respects.

James Wall, Pork Roll wasn't trying to be "right," he/she was trying in a fatback kind of way to be funny. You really might want to be less credulous before you urge fact checking on me.

Your penance should be to, uh, "fact check" some of lasermikey's posts.

Cathar, I apologize for missing the boat (and sarchasm). I guess it would be more fitting to say that I am in agreement with many other posters that weekend service would definitely improve my quality of life.