Sometimes we have to print retractions. This is mine.
I retract my previous statement about there being something scary about this. In fact, there is nothing scary about it. Nothing at all. I've seen the light after receiving these three emails (in the jump) and seeing this reaction to my post. I must have been tripping or off my meds back when I wrote that original piece. If you want to know more about why Stephen Colbert fans are not scary at all, read on.
Dear Ms. George,I would like to take issue with a Blog that was posted on Baristanet.com on Monday, November 19, 2007, specifically entitled "The Other Colbert Report". I am the author of the work to which your Blog refers ("The ‘Mont-clert Report' (write-up from last weekend's book signing" as posted on NoFactZone.net), and I'd like to address several blatant misconceptions and character misjudgments that were drawn solely from your opinion of the narrative itself and how they were
wrongly imposed upon myself and upon those who posted it on their website.Now, mind you, I'm fully aware that not everyone in this world is required to like everything he or she reads either online, in a newspaper, magazine, etc. It's a free country, and I'm not oblivious to the fact that it's every American's God-given right to dislike any sort of text, whatever it may be. I don't take issue with that, and that is not the point of this e-mail. I am, however, appalled, personally offended, and extremely angry that my own personal character, about which you do not know, as well as the character of the staff at NoFactZone.net, were inaccurately generalized and slandered through the insinuations made by the brief text of this Blog.
You are correct in your deduction that, yes, I am a fan of Mr. Colbert's, as is everyone on the
NoFactZone.net staff, not to mention all of the site's subscribers, contributors and readers, and
comment-posters. I respect and admire his work as a writer, actor and comedian, and I sincerely appreciated the time he took out of his schedule to meet and greet some of his New Jersey fans that day.But, I wholeheartedly resent the fact that you characterized me as, "a person like 'this' " who will
"scare you" and that I'm someone of whom the public and Mr. Colbert should be "very, very, very afraid".If this is your personal opinion of me, then, so be it. Is it inaccurate? Atrociously. However, simply because I happened to provide great detail in my personal recount of the book signing does NOT automatically qualify me as "scary," and the fact that the narrative alone was used as the only judgment of this is grossly misguided and slanderous.
Other than reading this personal account, you do not know me at all and should be making claims about who you think I am simply because you read something I wrote on a website. Clearly, I don't know you either outside of this Blog; should I deduce who I think you
might be based only on the 2 sentences I read?Absolutely not. Other than my initial knee-jerk reaction to this Blog (which was, needless to say, enraged), I have no pre-conceived notion of who you really are as a human being, and I highly doubt you are nearly as judgmental and spiteful as your Blog characterizes you to be. I would appreciate that you would extend the same courtesy to both myself and the staff at NoFactZone.net both as contributors to the online community and as human beings.
Moreover, the staff of NoFactZone.net work very hard to maintain a credible presence on the web and maintain strict journalistic integrity for which they are known. In the community of Mr. Colbert's fans, their site is widely respected as a trusted source of accurate information that is kept strictly in keeping with Mr. Colbert's professional life and public appearances. To imply that these hard-working and dedicated folks associate themselves and maintain a fansite that encourages subscribers and contributors "that will scare you" is pure conjecture and entirely
unfounded.Therefore, I would like to formally and politely request a retraction of what was posted on
Baristanet.com in these regards. Believe me, there are more than a handful of readers of NoFactZone.net that are just as irate and furious as I am about this Blog (and I do believe you've already heard from a handful of them) due to the fact that both my character and the character of the staff and fans of NoFactZone.net were unfairly characterized in this manner. I invite
your readers to draw their own conclusions about what I wrote based solely on what they read, without any preconceived notions presented to them beforehand.Thank you for your attention concerning this manner, and I sincerely hope that you will take this e-mail as gravely and seriously as I do.
Sincerely,
Lisa
Those other irate and furious readers? Here's what Toasty Sue had to say...
I can't imagine what other reason you would have for making a tiny little blog post whose only purpose is to insult an undeserving person who you clearly know nothing about and to invite your readers to insult that person to. I am, of course, referring to the post in which you link to No Fact Zone--to a fan's description of a Colbert book signing--describing it as "scary" and suggesting that "Colbert should be very very very afraid." Why on earth would you do that? I'd actually be quite interested in hearing an explanation. Was it just a slow newsday, or are unwarranted attacks on completely innocuous and, frankly adorable, contributors to other blogs a regular feature on this site? I'll assume they are. I'm not interested enough in you to look around the site much more than I have. You claim the post is "scary," but I don't know why you would think so. Maybe I've just read too many much more ridiculous dreamy-fan reports to appreciate how "scary" it might look to people who are cool like you. I find them charming. Even the weird ones. Even the ones that go completely overboard. And believe me, the one you picked on did not go completely overboard. But that's not the point. The point is you deliberately drew attention to this post in order to ridicule it and to encourage your readers to do the same. And that is super super lame. It's as lame as all of the mean and snooty shit you probably did when you were going to whatever snooty highschool you went to. You know the rich, stuck up, vacuous, prom queen bitch in every high school hijinx film made during the eighties? That's you. So congratulations on that. I look forward to the scene where you get mud splashed on your face and fancy dress, your boyfriend leaves you for Molly Ringwald and a weird foreign exchange student auctions off your undies to the chess club. Jerk face!
Alison's not happy with me either...
I have a tip for you, find someone else to report about Mr. Colbert. Someone other than Liz George. She was very cruel in her recent post about the "Monclert" book signing. Was she trying to be funny, calling someone who contributed to the No Fact Zone site "scary"? Well, it was not funny, it was very hurtful and, by the way, completely wrong. I am a big fan of Stephen's, and I enjoy being able to go to one place that has information, interviews, episode guides and links to clips of the man's work. NFZ is that site. The enthusiasim that permeates the website comes from people like myself who are inspired by the man and who get a lot of enjoyment out of what he does. Yes, we're fangirls and we get worked up by being able to see him in person. Or, for someone like me on the other side of the country, we get worked up at being able to hear about an appearance like that book signing. Especially when the report is from one of us, one of the real fans who like the man and miss him during the writer's strike. And it's nice to have one place where we can talk about our feelings to other like-minded folks. But our adoration never crosses the line into obsession, and the NFZ website never gets too personal or intrusive. The website, by the way, is praised on Dan Dinello's website www.shockproductions.com. He is a friend of Mr. Colbert and the uncle of Paul Dinello, Stephen's good friend. And Mr. Colbert himself has said that he has visited NFZ himself. So I hope Ms. George will do the right thing and apologize for such a stupid catty post. I certainly will never take anything she says seriously until she does. Alison
So here goes. I apologize. Please accept my apology. I should not have called Lisa scary. Having received these emails, I realize now that I didn't even begin to know anything about scary when I wrote that post. I was completely and utterly in the dark. So please accept my apologies. Long live the Colbert Nation!!!
And please feel free to call me a jerk, jerk face, Molly Ringwald or any other insult in comments. I deserve it.
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Comments (23)
Some folks can't laugh at themselves. More's the pity.
Sure, have an opinion, take a little heat for it and then flip to a new more popular opinion. Way to stick to your guns. I thought the whole "restraining order" part of the thread was hilarious. I am sure she is not really like that but who should appreciate a little well intented but still irreverant humor more than Steven Colbert's fans?
The scariest part of all this nonsense? The three e-mails above (especially the second one) sent by people who take fandom (and themselves) way too seriously.
They do realize that he's a comedian and as such, anything he (or his fans) may do is subject to be mocked, right? Actually, I guess no, they don't realize.
Jerk face! (Just had to say it.) ;-)
OK...now I am really afraid.
What a reaction. Guess they don't get our "humor" either.
Now I offically think they are truly whackos..lol
Well, Liz, I did kind of think that you were a Neo-Maxi-Zoom-Dwebbie when I read your post.
Honestly, though, what I found a little scary was how some people jumped all over the woman for calling the Watchung Area downtown.
"We're great, we have not 1, but SEVEN commercial areas! You said our town was cute but how COULD you think that we don't have a million more stores to spend our precious money! We're Montclair--we're like the best town ever!" Well, this is a nice town, I must admit (despite all the self-congratulating high school kids selling African necklaces that irritate walleroo and cathar) but do we have to be so defensive?
Let me end with a Happy Thanksgiving to all on Baristanet, No Fact Zone, and any other self-absorbed blogs!
So I'll call them scary. Really all those "fan sites" are frightening. Of course the folks involved may be normal, but there is something odd about it... Moreover, why retract? I understood the word "scary" by its popular context and current use ("Wal-mart scares me," "I'm scared of you," "Scary Spice," etc.), not as historically defined by Webster.
Frankly, many things "scare" me today: Ditto-heads, Obama Girl, Corzine's beard, The Daily Show, Soccer, Hillary's pantsuits, Bush's... take your pick, Montclair and NJ taxes scare the hell out of me...
But Liz, you should have told them to get a grip, get the joke and bite your ass. Oh, Cobert nation is mad a me, ohhhh... What are they gonna do? Hit me with their sardonic wit?
Liz, you have a perfect right to opine as you did the first time. Don't let these witless cultists bother you. I'll pledge my support in all feasible ways to you (as well as walleroo's, for whatever that's worth).
They really do sound creepy. And much too convinced they have a special relationship with Colbert, too. Perhaps if one were to shake a newly purchased Darfur necklace at them they might scatter in terror, but somehow I doubt it.
Oh well, it could be worse, they could be wholly devoted to, say, lasermikey.
Take it from the Giant...it takes a big person to apologize.
Happy Thanksgiving.
I couldn't help myself and posted to the linked thread above. Seeing as it's awaiting moderation and may never see the light of day, I'll cross post it here:
Hi there,
I post regularly on Baristanet.com and am kind of surprised to see such outrage at what I read as a friendly little jab. I say this as someone who has been deeply involved in the various facets of fandom, on both sides of the equation, for most of my life.
From the perspective of a fan, I take it with a grain of salt when someone refers to my personal level of fandom as scary. Whether they are referring to a passionately written review of a new movie, my uncanny "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" skills, or my ability to list off any artist who's drawn Wolverine over the last 40 years; what I find to be perfectly acceptable behavior will be construed as "obsessive" by others.
Also, (and I'm sure you guys have figured this out by now) Colbert is not only a celebrity, but a comedic celebrity. This makes anything he does in his public life subject of mockery. The same can be said for items put out by his fans for public consumption.
In short, I'm sorry that you guys couldn't take what was clearly meant as a joke about one of our local celebrities. But, you're taking yourselves just a little too seriously here. Don't worry too much, though. It's a flaw that a lot of BaristaNet posters have, too.
Holy crap....could this be the thread where everyone agrees on something? Liz, quickly dispose of this drivel nad post up something newso we can get back to slandering each other!
Nice bit of irony to begin our Thanksgiving activities.
That is some scary stuff.
He's a comedian?
Three emails sent you running?
yeesh
I think there is more to this story.
I don't get the MONTCLERT thing either.
RE: my previous post in another thread about the Army asking wounded soldiers to repay their signing bonuses.
Cheese,
Apparently, your version of the "old news" you chastised me for spreading was a LIE:
From Rep. Jason Altmire:
"I am heartened by Brigadier General Michael S. Tucker?s announcement of the Army?s policy that it will not ask for repayment of bonuses paid to those soldiers who are injured in the line of duty. However, I am disappointed that the policy does not go further by stating that wounded soldiers will also receive the remaining balance of future bonus payments. It is preposterous for our government to have a policy that says that a soldier who has sustained serious injuries in the field of battle has not fulfilled his or her service obligation."
This is an ongoing situation. I urge all readers here to contact their representatives and ask them to support Rep. Altmire's bill that will ensure wounded veterans receive their FULL signing bonuses and that the Bush Administration doesn't weasel out of the terms of its agreements with our soldiers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZpRkFbZ3QY
I would like to apologize for everything I've ever said. Necklaces are great! We all should have one for each tragedy. Drums of Thunder really is music! Lasermike is right about global warming! ROC is not a communist!
I feel much better now.
Guido,
As usual you are full of it. What I posted was hardly a lie. Troops WILL NOT have to pay back bonuses which is exactly what I said and exactly what you were worried about happening. As to the remaining balance stuff I agree that it should change and the entire bonue should be received. I have no doubt this will occur. These soldiers will not be left high and dry though as each will be eligible for disabilty payments (depending on the severity of the injuries) and other VA benefits to help them, We are aguing on the same side here, so don't put words in my mouth.
Montclert rhymes with Colbert.
And, Generically named Mike, I'm going to have to disagree with you. Yes, YOU!
I think Liz's post was out of line. When you make your career, hobby or whatever out of posting to the internet, you have to understand there is no context. You have to understand what will be transmitted to perfect strangers who aren't part of your little culture, moods, injokes and all.
As someone who has been deemed "scary" by others who have claimed to be "afraid" of me just because of my hapless, happy-go-lucky, dizzy-headed, too-energetic demeanor and wacky sense of humor, I don't appreciate it when people call other people whom they don't even know "scary", for stupid reasons. And you know me well enough to know that I'm just about the least scary person anyone has ever met.
I think it's hilarious that fans of STEPHEN COLBERT have such thin skins. Haven't they watched his show? Do you think the Bush administration writes rambling e-mails to him every day asking him to say he's sorry? What about Knut? Does he put paw to paper and demand that Stephen take back the horrible things he has said?
It was a joke Lisa. Get over it. Liz didn't call the FBI on you and name you as a stalker. She asked a question that readers may or may not (but probably may) agree with.