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Spitzer, Perhaps Client 9, Involved With Hookers

Monday, March 10, 2008

The New York Times has reported that New York governor Elliott Spitzer has ties to a prostitution ring.

The Times had reported on the high-priced prostitution ring, called Emporer's Club VIP, last week.

The ring's Web site showed pictures of the prostitutes, cropped so faces were not visible, and listed names like Sienna and Christine. The Web site, which was disabled shortly after the arrests were announced, ranked the prostitutes on a scale of one to seven "diamonds." A three-diamond woman, for example, could command a fee of $1,000 per hour. A seven-diamond woman cost more than $3,000 an hour.

For its most valued clients, the Emperor's Club offered membership in the elite "Icon Club," with hourly fees starting at $5,500, according to the federal complaint. The club also offered clients the opportunity to purchase direct access to a prostitute without having to contact the agency.

UPDATE: His wife at his side (just like another disgraced governor back in 2004), Spitzer briefly apologized to his family and the public, but did not resign.


Posted by Debbie Galant on March 10, 2008 2:29 PM
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I'm sure the Clinton's are behind this... So Hillary can bow out gracefully and become Gov.

Although, I'm sure our own bearded wonder of a Gov. is quietly asking if he can move across the Hudson.....

Seriously though, I have no time for folks who can't keep it in their pants while in office.

Bye-Bye...

Posted by profwilliams | March 10, 2008 2:40 PM
 

You can't make this stuff up:

As attorney general, he also had prosecuted at least two prostitution rings as head of the state's organized crime task force.

In one such case in 2004, Mr. Spitzer spoke with revulsion and anger after announcing the arrest of 16 people for operating a high-end prostitution ring out of Staten Island.

"This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure," Mr. Spitzer said at the time. "It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring."

Posted by Y.A.Duck | March 10, 2008 2:44 PM
 

Local relevance? Now, if it'd been Corzine...or Menendez...or even a Viagra-ed Lautenberg...

Posted by cathar | March 10, 2008 2:46 PM
 

It also doesn't seem to have been "ties." Rather, he may have been a patron, which isn't all the same grammatical thing. (Prof, how did you miss that one? Too busy correcting midterms so you can get them back to your charges before they split for sprting break?

Posted by cathar | March 10, 2008 2:48 PM
 

or a Democrat Governor in a state we are highly tied to.

Posted by Y.A.Duck | March 10, 2008 2:49 PM
 

The Emperor Has No Clothes

(tomorrow's Post headline)

Posted by Miss Martta | March 10, 2008 2:50 PM
 

Wow! Isn't the governor's salary like 150K per year? How can he afford to rent poon for 3 grand an hour? Must be some wealthy political donor covering the bill for him.

Posted by sleepysleek | March 10, 2008 2:50 PM
 

While this certainly has "local relevance" (considering how many in this area work and travel to NY), I'd hope if this were the Gov. of CA it would be posted here.

The details are too juicy!

Actually, I'm watching the Mets game...

Posted by profwilliams | March 10, 2008 2:53 PM
 

I hope he won't make his poor ol' ma stand next to him while he quits, like McSleezy did. I will never forget Jim's poor old USMC dad waiting for the floor to open up and swallow him during that nightmare of a press conference.

Posted by croiagusanam | March 10, 2008 2:55 PM
 

Mets game? Doesn't baseball start in April?

Posted by Miss Martta | March 10, 2008 2:56 PM
 

(MM, for those of us addicted to baseball, the season never ends... But it's a pre-season game and a chance to see some of the young ones....)

cathar, does it matter if he was "just" a patron? And ties, I assume includes being a patron.

Either way, this should be fun.

Posted by profwilliams | March 10, 2008 3:00 PM
 

Oh, and if he did it. I hope he gets arrested and led out of his home or office in cuffs like he did to so many.

Or was that Rudy?

Posted by profwilliams | March 10, 2008 3:02 PM
 

Prof, once again your lack of understanding of what words actually mean leads me to question your academic credentials.

OC members often have "ties" to prostitution operations. Clients patronize them. There is a difference.

Interestingly, we (well, the public, sort of) will now proceed to pillory Spitzer for something that we found charming and humanizing in the likes of former mayors like Jimmy Walker, Big Bill Thompson, Frank Hague and William F. O'Dwyer in the 20's and 30's. We also studiously ignored (in public, sort of) how Nelson Rockefeller died back in the 70's.

Posted by cathar | March 10, 2008 3:07 PM
 

I wonder if taxpayer $$$ was involved.

Posted by Miss Martta | March 10, 2008 3:07 PM
 

correction to my earlier post: Apparently his salary is $179,000/yr. Even so - around here that's just upper-middle-income. How's this guy got thousands of bucks to spend on temp vaj?

Oh, now MSNBC is running shots of him kissing his wife at some campaign event. She's rather cute.

Maybe he'll claim he's being framed as retaliation for having gone after other prostitution rings in the past.

Why are they called rings?

Posted by sleepysleek | March 10, 2008 3:08 PM
 

And I, Prof, am also the sort of person who thinks that if the phone rang at Hillary's White House at 3AM, it'd more likely be Bill saying he was "tied up" at the office and wouldn't be home till dawn than the CIA reporting on an Iranian nuke that'd just been launched.

Posted by cathar | March 10, 2008 3:10 PM
 

Makes me proud to be a Jersey guy. You'd never catch one of our governors making a bush-league mistake like Spitzer did. Our guys have enough discretion to keep the action isolated to turnpike rest stops.

Posted by complainerpuss | March 10, 2008 3:11 PM
 

Great - not just "good" - one, complainerpuss!

Posted by cathar | March 10, 2008 3:12 PM
 

Like so so so many.
Educated
Poised
Posessing many degrees
Family Man
Father
Held High Office
Respected
Listened to
Others sought his advice, opinions, etc.

and
and
and
and
and

NOT
an
ounce
of
common
sence !!

Posted by Sandy | March 10, 2008 3:25 PM
 

Ooh, i just watched the statement. The wife looks pissed, and much less cute now than she did in the older clips.

Why does he have her standing up there with him? Probably to prove that she hasn't told him to get lost yet.

Or is the message "see, this is why i go looking elsewhere." Either way, Bit only makes him look like more of a douche.

Posted by sleepysleek | March 10, 2008 3:27 PM
 

He felt lust in his heart, dontcha know.

Posted by Miss Martta | March 10, 2008 3:27 PM
 

cathar,

Stop questioning friend. Better yet, keep questioning, I'm sure it helps work out the brain.

As for "ties" or not, my point, which you seem to have missed, was that it does not matter if he financed the club or was a patron or just like the candles.

As Gov. he is "connected" and must go.

And if you think folks care about the difference, well they don't.

Posted by profwilliams | March 10, 2008 3:33 PM
 

He really didn't offer up a lot in the press conference. We still are clueless about what he actually did.

Posted by Miss Martta | March 10, 2008 3:33 PM
 

3 daughters...

And the poor wife standing besides him?

They will:
1) Work to get her elected to office
2) Divorce and fight over the kids

Posted by profwilliams | March 10, 2008 3:37 PM
 

MM, he was a client:

Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring
Wiretap Recording Said to Implicate Governor as Client

Gov. Eliot Spitzer has been caught on a federal wiretap arranging to meet with a high-priced prostitute at a Washington hotel last month, according to a person briefed on the federal investigation.

Posted by Spot The Looney | March 10, 2008 3:40 PM
 

I don't know MM, maybe the comedian's have it right, but at least no double post.

Posted by Y.A.Duck | March 10, 2008 3:41 PM
 

But Spot the Times piece sounds as if he had more than one meeting.

Posted by Miss Martta | March 10, 2008 3:43 PM
 

Spitzer's family is worth upwards of a half billion dollars...he's not hurting for money, i don't even think he accepts a salary.

Posted by 3rdwarder | March 10, 2008 3:47 PM
 

Apparently, someone wanted to nail him. Pun intended.

Posted by Spot The Looney | March 10, 2008 3:49 PM
 

CNN is reading from the affidavit:

Spitzer was "client 9" and got an "American, brunette, 5'3" 103 lbs..."

Sounds like his wife.

Jerk.

$3600? But they wanted $1500 more. He said he'd have to go to a bank.

(All this, when he could have just ordered up an adult film....)


Posted by profwilliams | March 10, 2008 3:51 PM
 

He was probably paying extra for discretion (wonder who else is on the list), or maybe he was treating his security detail.

Posted by Y.A.Duck | March 10, 2008 4:00 PM
 

The most remarkable thing about this to me was my complete and utter lack of surprise, shock, or outrage. Rather, my initial reaction was more along the lines of "well, isn't that interesting."

I suppose I have become so cynical and jaded that it's no big deal when the high and mighty are revealed to be hypocrites.

Posted by Pork Roll | March 10, 2008 4:00 PM
 

"The Emperor Has No Clothes"
hahaha
Good one Miss M!

Posted by Kay | March 10, 2008 4:01 PM
 

It's pretty sad all the way around.

Prostitution should probably be legalized and controlled. In this day and age we have more important things to deal with than a public official paying for some poontang on the side.

Posted by MellonBrush | March 10, 2008 4:01 PM
 

OK... I just made prostitution legal...

Tell me how that changes this story?

(Other than he might not go to jail...)

Hello?? Where'd everyone go? Hello??

Damn. Okay. It's illegal again. Come back...

Posted by profwilliams | March 10, 2008 4:07 PM
 

It was a sting, you silly geese! Spitzer was going in undercover (pun also intended) to find Mr. Big. (If you can't find Mr. Big, find Mr. Not-So-Small and pretend he is Mr. Big.) Bust him. Garner the glory. You'll see, when the spin doctors get a-holt of this one...

Posted by Conan | March 10, 2008 4:08 PM
 

Perhaps, MellonBrush. Yet this might not be so scandalous had Spitzer not targeted prostitution rings as one of his many crusades as New York Attorney General.

He single-handedly set himself up for this one.

Posted by Pork Roll | March 10, 2008 4:11 PM
 

Let's remember where Mrs. McGreevey stood as he announced his truck stop lovin' gayness.

I nominate sleepysleek for most number of icky words used in comments on a thread thus far... douche, temp vaj and poon - which I don't even know for sure what that is, but it makes me want to wash my hands.

Posted by ackme | March 10, 2008 4:16 PM
 

When I finally figured out what "temp vaj" my coworkers wanted to know what was so funny. Never heard that one before.

Posted by State Street Pete | March 10, 2008 4:20 PM
 

Ackme, while I'm sure that old "ss" meant it as just a shortening of "poontang" (a word I'm sure many of us first heard while in the Army), "poon" is a Dutch word for cash money.

Posted by cathar | March 10, 2008 4:22 PM
 

That's some expensive vaj.

Anyway, Mellon Brush, normally I agree with your posts but would you want to be married to someone who hired prostitutes?

Posted by Miss Martta | March 10, 2008 4:23 PM
 

We still are clueless about what he actually did.

Ahem. Birds do it, bees do it, educated flees do it...

Posted by walleroo | March 10, 2008 4:24 PM
 

More to the point, Miss Martta, since you're a woman, would YOU want to be married to someone who (also? in lieu of..?) resorted to hookers?

Posted by cathar | March 10, 2008 4:26 PM
 

I thought poon tang was something Chinese astronauts drink.

(BaDUMbum.)

The line of the day really goes to Miss M. (no clothes etc).

Posted by walleroo | March 10, 2008 4:27 PM
 

Play it safe Mellon, only marry a Christian preacher.

Posted by Y.A.Duck | March 10, 2008 4:27 PM
 

LOL...Wallerooo. I meant to what extent. What exactly does "linked" mean? Did he give money to help build the biz? Did he own one of the buildings they used? Clear as mud.

Posted by Miss Martta | March 10, 2008 4:28 PM
 

Is that as in Sir Thomas Wyatt's poem, "They flee from me, that sometime did me seke," walleroo?

Or from your time working as a wrangler at the "flee circus?"

Posted by cathar | March 10, 2008 4:29 PM
 

"More to the point, Miss Martta, since you're a woman, would YOU want to be married to someone who (also? in lieu of..?) resorted to hookers?"

Cathar: That was my point. Obviously, no. But I was just playing devil's advocate because he said he'd like to see it legalized.

Posted by Miss Martta | March 10, 2008 4:30 PM
 

To what extent?

No, sorry, I won't say it. This is a family Web site, goddammit.

Posted by walleroo | March 10, 2008 4:30 PM
 

Ah, so that's where that line comes from. You've quoted it before, cathar, to very humorous effect I might add.

Posted by walleroo | March 10, 2008 4:32 PM
 

I wonder how many of the men posting on this forum has availed themselves of a little 'horizontal refreshment' as was so aptly put by Mel Gibson 'Porter' in "Payback".

Posted by MellonBrush | March 10, 2008 4:40 PM
 

"Horizontal refreshment"...LOL!

Is that like the "beast with two backs?"

To me, horizontal refreshment means getting to sleep for 8 hours straight.

Posted by Miss Martta | March 10, 2008 4:47 PM
 

MM,

8 hours is impossible these days...

I like the image of the beast...

"Payback" is great film noir and a terrific black comedy.

Posted by MellonBrush | March 10, 2008 4:49 PM
 

I saw the squad (who specifically requested it) I led during my first tour in Vietnam safely entrenched at a "house of pleasure" in Singapore (think Paul Theroux's novel "Saint Jack, which is close enough), even selected the place by asking around and negotiating on prices, before heading on myself to Australia for my r'n'r, MellonBrush. That, and some soapily harmless play in an in-country bathhouse a few times, is the full extent of my personal "experience" with sporting houses, thank goodness.

Posted by cathar | March 10, 2008 4:54 PM
 

The head of the "ring," Mark Brener, is a Jersey guy. Lives in one or more of the Brunswicks. Bada bing!

Posted by crank | March 10, 2008 4:56 PM
 

And "Payback," MellonBrush (if you didn't know already), is a remake of a much angrier, better-made film called "Point Blank" with Lee Marvin, and both are from a "Richard Stark" novel (I forget who that's a pseudonm for, but it's someone pretty good).

Posted by cathar | March 10, 2008 4:58 PM
 

Donald Westlake

(Google is my friend)

Posted by Miss Martta | March 10, 2008 5:02 PM
 

Thank you, Miss M!

Posted by cathar | March 10, 2008 5:07 PM
 

Cathar,

I didn't know. Thanks for the tip. I'm on my way to netflix to update my queue.

.. there was this place on 46th St. near 7th ave. It was 1977 and the bouncer was a gigantic doberman with a spiked collar. When I was waiting for my friend to come back downstairs I petted the 'bouncer' but knew that he'd rip out my throat with the right command from the gal selling the 'tickets'.

Posted by MellonBrush | March 10, 2008 5:17 PM
 

Ah, thanks 3rdwarder, i didn't realize Spitzer was from money. No wonder the rate didn't bother him. I think Duck is right -- he thought he was paying for discretion. Oops.

Ackme, you never heard 'poon' before? Yes, short for poontang. (I briefly went out with a girl who had a cat named Poontang.)

Thanks for the Dutch lesson, Cathar. Next time I'm in Amsterdam, i won't get upset when the guy at the hash bar asks if i'm paying in poon.

Posted by sleepysleek | March 10, 2008 5:24 PM
 

If a recording popped up of McCain in flagrante delicto with Vicki Iseman, his lobbyist friend with whom he jetted around on her client's private jet, then things would really get interesting. The Dem's might have Republicans at a disadvantage: Spitzer's rook for McCain's king.

Posted by mother_of_i | March 10, 2008 5:57 PM
 

CBS is reporting that Spitzer is going to quit.

Posted by Y.A.Duck | March 10, 2008 6:02 PM
 

Bastards, they plaster the bottom of the screen with CBS exclusive Spitzer not to continue as governor, then allude to a inside source, then wimp out.

Posted by Y.A.Duck | March 10, 2008 6:18 PM
 

[comment deleted]

Posted by Y.A.Duck | March 10, 2008 6:24 PM
 

Shoot, they don't allow "zoo" vedios.

Posted by Y.A.Duck | March 10, 2008 6:27 PM
 

Duckie, that really was a bit offensive. Not funny, not called for.

Posted by cathar | March 10, 2008 6:44 PM
 

Liz, time for those asterisks you're so fond of.

Posted by walleroo | March 10, 2008 7:03 PM
 

No, what is offensive cathar, besides you most of the time, is someone who sets up high standards and then thinks they are above them; using them for personal gain instead of calling for repeal. Pandering to the extreme of human sacrifice for a "moral" good when the definition of those morals is so screwed up as to put in jail a very large percent of people acting human (and not hurting anybody and I don't mean sex with animals, lighten up, Francis.) I want to see this jackass hauled out of the Governors office in cuffs and handled just like the people he's responsible for busting.
I wish people paid more attention to violence than sex. I wish something your not going to stop was regulated rather than banned so that there were no "sex slaves", so they had pensions and nobody went to jail for it. Stop wasting all the resources on crap and let's make a real world were you can walk down the street safely. If you do it properly you won't have an Amsterdam.

Posted by Y.A.Duck | March 10, 2008 7:23 PM
 

The Post headline for when he resigns:

Spitzer Goes Down

Posted by crank | March 10, 2008 7:36 PM
 

Stop ranting, Duck. What's offensive is your quasi-pornographic reference to Katie Couric and moi. Just admit you made a little boo-boo and move on.

Posted by walleroo | March 10, 2008 7:43 PM
 

With my cats on either side me, I sincerely apologize.

Posted by Y.A.Duck | March 10, 2008 8:05 PM
 

Go, my son, and sin no more.

By the way, I have been deeply and hopelessly in love with Katie for many years.

Posted by walleroo | March 10, 2008 8:14 PM
 

Thank you walleroo. I will keep that last part confidential (I wouldn't want you to be porchless).

Posted by Y.A.Duck | March 10, 2008 8:19 PM
 

I am not surprise that a governor was going to prostitutes. I am surprised that the feds went after him.

Rich powerful men often have other women on the side and virtue is a rare quality.

Posted by Mr. Ping | March 10, 2008 8:27 PM
 

2 comments-

Sienna was 3 diamonds not 6 as advertised.

And can you imagine if Clinton were let loose in the white house again and this time with nothing to do but chase the interns around?

Posted by BeenHereTooLong | March 10, 2008 8:33 PM
 

2 comments-

Sienna was 3 diamonds not 6 as advertised.

And can you imagine if Clinton were let loose in the white house again and this time with nothing to do but chase the interns around?

Posted by BeenHereTooLong | March 10, 2008 8:33 PM
 

Don't worry, Liz is very tolerant.

Posted by walleroo | March 10, 2008 8:39 PM
 

So...he pays for the sex, & the NYers are the ones who get F***ed!

Posted by SergeStorms | March 10, 2008 9:55 PM
 

I realize now that had Dan Rather been on the job at CBS a pre-mature speculation on Spitzer would never have happened, I guess it was the lost climax of the story that was so disappointing. Sorry.

walleroo, what happens under the porch, stays under the porch. I see, however when you wish upon an asterisk, you get them. (do I hear didgeridoos somewhere?)

Posted by Y.A.Duck | March 10, 2008 10:42 PM
 

Ah! I love it when they get their heads caught in their zippers!

Posted by Karen Banda | March 10, 2008 10:51 PM
 

In looking at those prices, it strikes me that the gov could have saved a considerable amount of scratch by simply patronizing Bloomfield's own Bodies in Motion. He would have had plenty left over for margaritas at Senorita's, or even enough to brave the drag-racing at that den of iniquity in GR, Fitzgerald's.
Poor Eliott! I know that Mario Cuomo could have told him, "cazzo dritto non vuolt consiglio!"

Posted by croiagusanam | March 10, 2008 11:02 PM
 

Duckie, you still sound like a futile dip to me. Walleroo was merciful, as is his general wont. Personally, I'm not so kindly disposed to folks like you who stab haplessly at wit without the slightest real facility with language.

Posted by cathar | March 10, 2008 11:16 PM
 

cathar, please don't use a big word where a diminutive word will suffice.

Posted by Y.A.Duck | March 10, 2008 11:21 PM
 

How can this be "the news". What Spitzer allegedly did is chicken feed compared to the crimes committed by the president, vp, and other administration rogues.

Posted by lasermike026 | March 10, 2008 11:42 PM
 

It's always a pleasure to see you burst through the surface, laserdoodle, like some kind of doofus whale chasing a little gnat.

Do you know any other tunes, or notes even? Or just the one?

Posted by walleroo | March 10, 2008 11:59 PM
 

Yeah, cathar. Don't utilize a multisyllabic word when an undersized, miniaturized one will work to the same approximate effect.

Posted by walleroo | March 11, 2008 12:03 AM
 

What Spitzer has allegedly done is not important in the big picture. Has violated the law but it is a minor crime. The administration has committed errors and possible crimes that have cause the deaths of hundreds of thousands. This is not a small matter at all.

Spitzer's scandal deserves 10 minutes of new coverage. There is much more important business than this. This story is going to get the front page tomorrow and it doesn't deserve it.

Posted by lasermike026 | March 11, 2008 12:22 AM
 

walleroo,

it's a beautiful thing to watch you and catheter close ranks when it comes to bullying the posters you don't agree with.

can i be on your team?

Posted by mother_of_i | March 11, 2008 12:56 AM
 

Dear mother of i,

I know, it seems like bullying. I would think the same thing if I had just stumbled on this blog, and this thread, the way you have only recently. You should understand, however, that the sadist cannot exist alone. He requires a masochist to complete him. Lasertwit completes me. He is like a punching bag, waiting to be struck, and by his very inertness he asks to be struck again. His is the siren call of masochists. We likes abuse. He's the pimply faced kid on the playground who wants to get beaten up because it's better than being ignored.

Don't worry, if you stick around and listen carefully, perhaps one day you will be able to hear this music, too.

Yours sincerely,

Posted by walleroo | March 11, 2008 2:21 AM
 

And please, no psychoanalyzing the "we" in that line, which obviously should read "he"...

And do you know what's odd? I actually agree with what laserknucklehead said! Even a sensible word from his lips is an affront to God and Man. His mere utterance is enough to send me to the other side of an argument! Go figure.

Posted by walleroo | March 11, 2008 2:29 AM
 

Can someone explain to my simple mind why Clients 1-8 & Client 10 weren't outed like Eliott?

Posted by crank | March 11, 2008 2:56 AM
 

First, what the HECK are you doing up this late?

Second, nobody probably would care. They're nobodies. Like us, crank. Or, I'll speak for me: Like me.

Posted by walleroo | March 11, 2008 2:59 AM
 

Congratulations to soon to be ex Governor Spitzer. Beautiful !

Posted by jimmyp | March 11, 2008 4:12 AM
 

The ACTUAL Post headline: "Ho No." Meh.

Posted by Miss Martta | March 11, 2008 6:10 AM
 

How long until the wife leaves him and takes half?

Posted by ackme | March 11, 2008 8:14 AM
 

How long until the wife leaves him and takes half?

Posted by ackme | March 11, 2008 8:15 AM
 

I heard that Bill Clinton is advising him.

Posted by Jessica | March 11, 2008 8:49 AM
 

Thanks walldude. Just doesn't seem quite equitable that they all aren't being exposed.

Up late - had fallen asleep on the couch, woke up, noticed computer still on so thought I'd post that nagging question.

Nobody's a nobody on Baristanet, I think. You even have a spot of prime B-ville real estate!

Posted by crank | March 11, 2008 9:11 AM
 

On 1010 WINS they just said:

"The bigger they come, the harder they fall, & Gov Spitzer went down with a bang!"

That's 4 double entendres in one sentence by my count. Nice work 1010!

Posted by crank | March 11, 2008 9:32 AM
 

Walleroo, I don't even take what you say with a grain of salt. Keep on trolling.

Posted by lasermike026 | March 11, 2008 9:37 AM
 

mother_of_i,

The day could come when a catheter will be your best friend.

Posted by MellonBrush | March 11, 2008 9:42 AM
 

mother_of_i, there is no "team." There are merely rational, at-core nice human beings and people like your posturing self. (And then, inimitably, there's mikey....)

You are, however, much welcome to go and play with laserboy if it'll help. (That you're both up and posting at such a late hour already hints at your compatibility.) If only as a way of delaying what I suspect in his case is the sheer inevitability of his always having to pay for "company," and at any stage of both his physical and mental development.

And in lieu of sex toys, I'd suggest you both start small, with something from Babies'r'Us. Something plush and Disney-based, too.

Lastly, words, Duckie, are not "diminutive." Errors of verbal approach like this one are why you're still playing Class C Ball. But cheer up, even if you're stuck way down in the minors, mikey and mother_of_i are both way below ye, stranded on some sandlot, aggrieved that they weren't picked by either team of schoolkids.

Posted by cathar | March 11, 2008 10:29 AM
 

(Clearly not a current day sandlot as "picking" players leads to low self-esteem and low self-esteem leads to... well, low self-esteem. And we'll have none of that.)

Posted by profwilliams | March 11, 2008 10:54 AM
 

Well put, prof.

God forbid, too, that anyone might suspect little mikey laser suffers from low self-esteem. Or even "lowness" in any way, shape or form.

Posted by cathar | March 11, 2008 11:06 AM
 

Rich, when ever you want to go out for a beer you let me know.

Posted by lasermike026 | March 11, 2008 11:17 AM
 

"Rich?" Laserchild, you assume far too much familiarity with adults for one so young, so unformed, so dismally "progressive."

So no, mikeynutter, a thousand times no. I'd rather hang out with Mr. Ed.

Posted by cathar | March 11, 2008 11:26 AM
 

cathar, Your obvious lack of self control, need to put others in their "place" and low brow sports references puts you in a class by itself, but I digress.
The basic meaning of "diminutive" as an adjective is extremely small in size. Adjectives are the word class that qualifies nouns. The word "word" is a noun.
Maybe your new buddy the prof can explain it to you.

Posted by Y.A.Duck | March 11, 2008 11:38 AM
 

Duckie, may I suggest YOU go for a root beer with mikey? (It may even give you anew appreciation of how "diminutive" a mind can be.) And as I've noted before, try and stop the sniveling. You really seem to be whimpering for my approval of you as an acceptable debate foe or some such. It ain't gonna happen. (There, was that base enough for ya?)

Posted by cathar | March 11, 2008 11:47 AM
 

Spitzer revealed that he has no morals - he was willing to prosecute people for victimless crimes, but he doesn't really believe in the law. I would love to see some journalism about the lives that he has ruined. That willingness to hurt others for his own gain is why he is not fit to be governor - not because he cheated on his wife. When are we going to get these stupid sex laws off the books? And when are we going to stop voting for people who support them?

Posted by Devil's Advocate | March 11, 2008 11:57 AM
 

You call that a debate?
Ahh...nice grandiose comeback cathar, loved your "base" reference. XOXOXOX

Spitzer is now being reported as "considering" resigning. Wish he would just do it so it can just move on.

Posted by Y.A.Duck | March 11, 2008 12:04 PM
 

"at-core nice human beings" is not a phrase that immediately comes to mind when i think of your standard post, catheter. Besides the tiresome ad hominem attacks and the incessant invectives, weren't you calling for the incineration of human beings the other day in response to their crimes against inaminate objects? At core, a very fine fellow indeed.


Must be the good catholic in you, offering up your own 21st century version of your forebearers in 15th century Spain. You're an anachronism.

Posted by mother_of_i | March 11, 2008 12:09 PM
 

Mother_of_i, I may strike you as somewhat anachronistic. But you in turn strike me as wearyingly bigoted, given your apparent view of Catholicism (and we of a Papist background tend to capitalize the initial "c" there, by the bye).

I don't recall suggesting the "chambre ardente" for people who committed crimes agains "inanimate objects," but I'll certainly stand by it if it includes your own brain.

Posted by cathar | March 11, 2008 12:17 PM
 

mother_of_i,

There you go again, using 'catheter' in a perjorative sense. I object to this base attack on a wonderful medical apparatus.

Also, invectives is not a real word - invective is already plural.

Posted by MellonBrush | March 11, 2008 12:20 PM
 

i mother, you do a classy job of mixing the jejune ("you're an anachronism") with the hypocritical (complaining of ad hominem attacks while mangling cathar's name).

Posted by walleroo | March 11, 2008 12:39 PM
 

MellonBrush,

Don't tell me you've never hurled an invective before. Do it more than once, and you're hurling invectives, dude.

Posted by mother_of_i | March 11, 2008 12:46 PM
 

mother_of_i,

After doing some research, I've discovered that either form is correct.

Since invective implies a stream of negativity, adding the 's' seems unnecessary, but you are correct and I stand corrected, dude.

Posted by MellonBrush | March 11, 2008 1:18 PM
 

Well, thank you, MellonBrush. Maybe, the posters on this blog are "at-core nice human beings" after all, just as Catheter said.

Posted by mother_of_i | March 11, 2008 1:33 PM
 

Perhaps this might also help clarify two correctuses

Posted by Y.A.Duck | March 11, 2008 1:47 PM
 

Great. Now all those wishing to keep it real authentic will be dropping the "s's".

Claiming with typical "Upper" Baristaville indignation that they are "conscious of [the words] foreign origins."

Posted by profwilliams | March 11, 2008 1:55 PM
 

mother,

You are very welcome.

Virtually all of the posters on this site are nice people.

Maybe there will be another Baristaville party and we can all get a chance to meet each other in the flesh, as it were.

Thank God for catheters and that's the last thing I'll say on that subject.

Posted by MellonBrush | March 11, 2008 1:57 PM
 

I don't know about my core (it's rotten) but some people think I'm nice (in person).

Posted by Miss Martta | March 11, 2008 2:13 PM
 

Love Potion #9...one of my favorite songs from the 60's sung by the Searchers.

Posted by Iceman | March 11, 2008 2:56 PM
 

The Searchers covered the song. The Clovers did the original and they WERE one of the first rock and roll groups.

Posted by Spot The Looney | March 11, 2008 3:34 PM
 
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