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Observations From The Green Goddess Of Baristaville

Friday, April 11, 2008

Pat Kenschaft, Professor of Math at MSU, is well known in Baristaville for her organic gardening, outspoken green activism, and relentless efforts to educate friends, neighbors and local politicians how to live a happy, earth-friendly life. Naturally, we asked for Pat's take on the two hours of greenspeak during last Sunday's standing-room only Environmental Forum.

I was delighted about the extent to which all 21 of the participating candidates tried to appear concerned about our environment. We all know that lip service is not a sufficient condition for progress, but I suspect it may be a pre-requisite. It felt good to see that all involved wanted to be seen as environmental candidates.

Most amazing was the congenial nature of all the interactions. I can't remember a single example of snippyness. No candidate "went after" another. All remained charming for two hours!

And how did she think the specific candidates fared?

After giving each slate and independent candidate time to answer most of the preannounced questions, they allowed for questions from the floor. My most serious criticism was that they didn't insist that the candidates stand when speaking, so we couldn't be sure which candidate was saying what, especially the two slates on the sides, Thrive Montclair and Unity Montclair. I wrote an email to both Ted Mattox and Joyce Michaelson afterward challenging their statement that more recycling would require more trucks. It would require only different use of trucks. Actually, if most citizens think about recycling, it could cut the use of trucks. Jeanne and Dick Roy fill only one garbage pail a year, two when they were raising their three children. Jeanne "precycles," as she calls it; she thinks about the destination of everything they bring into their home BEFORE they acquire it.

More serious to me was Joyce Michaelson's hesitating statement that she hadn't thought much about conserving energy. This was in response to a question sent to all the slates before the forum, and she could have assigned anyone on her slate to answer it. She said that she herself had bought a Prius, but... My husband and I didn't receive what the "but" was during the panel, so Fred asked her afterward. She told him she didn't think the township could afford the upfront cost of hybrids. Fred claims that there are vehicles with higher gas mileage that would serve most township needs that are no more expensive than the ones now being used. (He probably knows. His mother told me his first word was "car" - before Dada or bye-bye - and anyone who knows the adult Fred nods when I tell them this.) The upfront cost might even be lower, and the long-term costs surely would be.

Of even greater concern was Jerry Freier's statement that we should wait to get more fuel-efficient vehicles until the technology improves. There already is vastly varying fuel-efficiency among available vehicles, and we don't have time to wait. I do agree that we shouldn't dispose of well-functioning vehicles (there is no "away"), but as we do normal replacements, fuel-efficiency should be a major criterion in the choice.

Some goofs were slightly amusing. Sandra Lang's statement that the township should sell the two parts of the Wildwood property that are disconnected from the rest is not based on fact. The Wildwood property is all connected, and I think Montclair should preserve all the open spaces it has. It is understandable that Council members haven't walked the tract, but I'm surprised they haven't studied a map, which would take only a few seconds.

Some candidates didn't hear questions properly, most notably that of Virginia Cornue, who asked about allowing Renaissance School students to help with the landscaping in front of the administration building in collaboration with the Montclair Backyard Habitat Project and the township. Joyce Michaelson and Jerry Freier responded that there is no township-owned land near the Renaissance School.

When Amanda Gamsby asked about policies on leaf blowers, I was overjoyed that all members of the Unity Montclair slate said they would ban their use in Montclair, and the others all scrambled to say what they would do to curb their use "until banning them is possible."

Alas, Rick Murnick said he would try to replace gas-powered with electric leaf blowers. Afterward, I ran directly to him to say how much worse I believe electric leaf blowers are than gas-powered ones. The pain they inflict reduces me to tears even if I put my fingers in my ears, while the gas-powered leaf blowers "only" annoy and interrupt communication, rest and work. (Whose career is more important - yours or mine?) Furthermore, some leading scientists say that eliminating coal-power plants is the most urgent step toward mitigating climate change, even more important than stopping the use of petroleum (which is in more imminent danger of running out). Rick told me he was just getting to know these issues and was running as a financially astute professional because he wants to get our budget under control. I told him I share that goal.

Personally, I was very pleased by the statements, both on Sunday and elsewhere, of Jerry Fried, Kathryn Weller, Cary Africk, Rene Baskerville, and Roger Plawker. I hope they are elected to the Council.

Beyond that, however, I was reassured by the dedication, caring, and friendliness of all 21 participating candidates. (David Taylor declined to participate.) I look forward to listening to them again at the LWV candidates' forum on Wednesday, April 30, at the LGI room at Montclair High beginning at 7:00 PM.

It takes a lot of time and energy to run for any elected office, and serving on the Montclair township council has negligible financial rewards - probably negative. That a person is willing to run simply to try to improve the world is laudable, and I want to express my appreciation for all 21 of these admirable people. In the language of the Interfaith Environmental Coalition, Montclair is very blessed.

Thank you, Baristanet, for asking me to write my response to Sunday's Environmental Candidates' Forum. I didn't take notes, so I hope the facts in the following are correct. My apologies to anyone who has been misremembered.

And kudos to the event organizers, Kevin Fried of the Interfaith Environmental Coalition and Michael Yellin of Blue Wave New Jersey.

--photo, Maryam Webster

Posted by Annette Batson on April 11, 2008 1:30 PM
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That's Pat?! She's cute!

Posted by User Name | April 11, 2008 1:53 PM
 

boobs!

Posted by BostonScott | April 11, 2008 2:09 PM
 

"boobs!"

Which just goes to show you that men like boobs even if they're green and have moss growing on them.

Posted by Miss Martta | April 11, 2008 2:19 PM
 

I'm fairly certain that Pat would prefer "melons" or "cantaloupes", Scott .

Posted by Spicoli | April 11, 2008 2:29 PM
 

Pat was a great Calculus instructor. I had her for Calc I after a 7 year hiatus from my undergrad studies.

I found her to be a very engaging and effective communicator. Her brief explanation of why it was a good thing to study mathematics totally won me over!

Posted by MellonBrush | April 11, 2008 2:46 PM
 

We don't have time to wait [but] we shouldn't dispose of well-functioning vehicles...

To put it more plainly, there's no urgency.

Of even greater concern was Jerry Freier's statement that we should wait...

OMG, Jerry, there goes your whole platform!

Some scientists say that eliminating coal-power plants is the most urgent step toward mitigating climate change, even more important than stopping the use of petroleum (which is in more imminent danger of running out).

I'm sorry, Pat, but this is one of the most preposterous summations of what "scientists say" that I have ever heard.

To say that oil is in "imminent danger of running out" shows a complete misunderstanding of the current situation, which is characterized by a surge in demand (from China et al), not a lack of supply.

And I hate to break it to you, but there is zero chance of "eliminating coal-power plants" anytime soon, despite what "scientists say." You are carrying the consumer-as-activist paradigm to absurd lengths.

The statement is even the more ridiculous for appearing in the context of deciding between electric or gas powered leaf blowers, which, according to the International Energy Agency, constitute approximately .0000000001 percent of worldwide energy use

I was delighted about the extent to which all 21 of the participating candidates tried to appear concerned about our environment.

Now that sounds about right!

Posted by walleroo | April 11, 2008 3:03 PM
 

Oh crap, I've fallen victim to the Jerry confusion! Freier is not Fried!

Maybe that should be Fried's campaign slogan: "I am not Freier!"

Posted by walleroo | April 11, 2008 3:08 PM
 

Petroleum is something that we should be weaned off of because of the volatility of the Middle East and other oil-rich areas (Nigeria & Venezuela). Being at the mercy of these tumultuous suppliers is not a good thing. Most importantly, we should kick the habit because of the poisonous carbon emissions from burning fossil fuels. Cough, hack.

Posted by Spot The Looney | April 11, 2008 3:13 PM
 

Speaking of "consumers-as-activists"
have you seen this:

target="new">the Story of Stuff?!

 

I wonder what Ms. Kenshaft's reaction to Ted "Mr. Litterbug" Mattox's papering of all of the cars parked for the forum with his nasty flyer about Michaelson?


litter litter litter Teddy. have you been back to pick all of it up?

And, there was no post consumer waste used in the creation of his littering leaflet.

Why not a least recycled paper Teddy?

Posted by Belletones | April 11, 2008 3:33 PM
 

It would be really unfortunate if people accidentally vote for Freier instead of Fried. I don't have any personal experience with Fried but he seems like a nice, together person, judging by his comments thus far. Freier on the other hand should not be re-elected. He's done nothing for the third ward.

Posted by montclairlibn1 | April 11, 2008 4:11 PM
 

I hope Ms. Kenschaft was consciously trying to write a parody of what James Gould Cozzens referred to long ago as "ladyprose," in all its treacly glory. The alternative is too horrid to truly consider.

Posted by cathar | April 11, 2008 4:51 PM
 

What kind of super-hearing-power does it take to distinguish electric leaf blowers from the gas ones? I need to do some empirical testing on this.

Pat seems like a nice person and all, but she finds something to rant about on the Watercooler practically every day. Recently there was a 2 week diatribe on her opposition to Belgian block curbs. I can't bring myself to read her posts anymore - they fill my head with a very high pitched screeching sound.

Posted by Spicoli | April 11, 2008 5:57 PM
 

she'll turn it down for you if you ask.

Belgian block curbs cost too much and don't give us the bang for the buck that we want/need in Montclair.

Would you like to hear more?

Posted by HidingInBaristaville | April 11, 2008 6:11 PM
 

I heard that that Morial, the ex mayor of New Orleans, has called off
coming to speak at Ted's function tomorrow nite.

Do you think it's 'cause he doesn't want to pick up all of the litter that will be generated when Ted papers ASLL of the cars in the neighborhood?

Posted by HidingInBaristaville | April 11, 2008 6:18 PM
 

Pat teaches at Bloomfield College now, and the students love her. Pretty sure that she is no longer at MSU.

Posted by galaxyman | April 11, 2008 7:23 PM
 

I think Marc Morial has withdrawn his interference in a local election campaign because certain (black) Baristas who respect for the NUL's history of concrete programs for job training, employment, youth development and housing, made it known to National Urban League that we are not amused by Ted Mattox's attempt to make an accident of DNA and political foolishness look like a commitment to the struggle for economic and racial justice.

Posted by Nana | April 11, 2008 8:08 PM
 

I love NANA!!!

Posted by Liz | April 11, 2008 8:49 PM
 

I live next to one of those obnoxious guys that has an oversized lot and thinks nothing of having his lawn dude come to his place once a week, year round, to blow stuff around with his very loud leaf blower....It usually ends up in my yard, driveway, etc. etc. We are talking 52 times a year. The noise pollution. The blowing away of topsoil. The mess that comes into my yard. So today I pulled out my little electric leaf blower to rid my driveway of a year's worth of residue....the leaves.mud....pebbles. etc. that gather over the course of a year. I used said electric leaf blower to clean driveway and sidewalk for FIFTEEN MINUTES. During that time I got hassled by two pedestrians, one drive-by critique and the dude who lives next to me who complained........Things I know. We will never resolve this leafblower fight. But for so long as @@@@@@@@@@@holes like the guy who lives next to me live in Montclair.....the issue never will be resolved. And I don't care how many Prius' and/or other yuppie/puppie things Joyce Michaelson and her ilk buy/rent/borrow/or pretend to give a rat's @###. I say we vote every single sitting person on today's council out of office. Then we vote for anybody who comes out with some true, sound ideas....somebody who knows how the cow ate the cabbage and is willing to get said cabbage for the cow. ...We may WANT a new school. We don't NEED a new school. We may want our kids to learn CHINESE but we don't NEED them to learn it until they have LEARNED ENGLISH. I propose this: Anybody running for the town council.....If they are not out and about this weekend picking up the garbage t hat decorates (sic) our streets...and if they are not bawling out (and not begging for votes...but bawling out....the folks who don't give a flying fig about this town because they treat it like it is the Garden State Parkway just waiting there for trash to be thrown....You get my drift. Back to my original point. While I despise the jerk-off that lives next door to me for so many more reasons than that he employs an overzealous leaf blower dude....I really am tired of yuppies and their puppies complaining about this, that and the other thing when they could just get out there and "just do it" themselves.
Whoever has been to the most town council meetings in the last year ( I would be willing to bet it wouldn't be an elected official) should be elected king for a year and given a chance to clean up this quagmire.


Posted by oh puleeze | April 11, 2008 9:31 PM
 

"Recently there was a 2 week diatribe on her opposition to Belgian block curbs."

Pat came before the town council and stated that her street was next in line for Belgian Block curbs and that she had spoken to all of the neighbors on her dead end street and they all agreed they didn't need new curbs.

Tthe town council/manager said they'd look into it and if in fact that was the case, they would not get new curbs.

FF two weeks and it turns out that Pat's neighbors told her no such thing. As a matter of fact, the Town Manager said a few of her neighbors were extremely unhappy that they were misrepresented.

Posted by Jon Doh | April 12, 2008 12:38 AM
 

the most pre-council meetings,
the most conference meetings, the most council meetings, the most montclair environmental commission meetings as well as most of the board of education meetings is....... of course, Cary Africk.

But he doesn't just attend meetings. He does nothing half-assed: he does the homework, he takes action, he gets things done.

Africk's the one!

Posted by Belletones | April 12, 2008 12:48 AM
 

Teddy,

what about Morial. Is he gonna show- or NO.

Are you going to continue to paper cars in Montclair with your anti-Michaelson flyer?

If you continue to litter we'll have you fined. As it is, there are flyers all over the ground where you papered the cars at the Environmental forum.

You should pick them up since you are responsible for them.

Posted by HidingInBaristaville | April 12, 2008 12:55 AM
 

Just yours...

It's only litter if you throw it on the ground...did you? I may have to have you fined.

I love the fact that the greenies who attended threw garbage on the ground, priceless. Were you one of them?

Are you coming to the big party tonight? Guarantee there will be about 5x as many as Frieds fundraiser, which shouldn't be too hard since only about 10 attended!

Posted by Jon Doh | April 12, 2008 9:20 AM
 

Teddy,

It's litter if you put it on my car and it blows off.

It's litter if you put it on my car and I don't see it and it blows off

It's litter and YOU are responsible for it.

No ONE said that the people the attended the Environmental Forum threw it on the ground.

That's you passing the buck again.

Ted "I'm not responsible for anything that I do" Mattox.

word out on the street is that Morial, the ex mayor of New Orleans, has called off
coming to speak at Ted's function tonite.

I guess he didn't want to pick up the litter that will be generated when all of the cars are papered.

In order to get the many partygoers that you are claiming I guess you're bringing your family and maybe paying others to attend.

Why does the number that attended the Unity Montclair party keep changing?


Posted by HidingInBaristaville | April 12, 2008 10:29 AM
 

Ted. I was at Freid's kickoff. The bands were GREAT and I love music!

The number of people, HONESTLY, attending Fried's "kickoff" at the
Church was approximately 150.

People kept coming in and going out.


People stayed for 20 minutes or an hour, then left. It was difficult to keep count, as not everyone signed in.

A considerable amount
of money was collected.

Why does Ted keep finding it necessary to trash Fried, or Unity Montclair?

I'd suggest that the people who will consider voting for Ted aren't the ones voting for Unity Montclair. Ted's prospective voters are voting for Joyce because she's a "known entity" and is the "status quo".

Concentrate on the positive Ted.

Concentrate on WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.

The voters that have left Ted's camp, running FROM Ted are running to known stability and known patronage. And that's Michaelson.

Ted, you need a new
Campaign manager!

Posted by Montclair.Mommy | April 12, 2008 11:09 AM
 

HIB, the authorities have been notified of your littering, expect a visit!

Are you suggesting Fried has no friends to come to his events? too bad. If you add in the candidates and their family and the family of the band that just came to hear them play, fried had about 10 additional people.

Even the MEC people are backing Thrive, which must be a big bloe to Unity.

Posted by Jon Doh | April 12, 2008 12:40 PM
 

Teddy,

The flyers have your slates name on them
"paid for by Thrive Montclair, Mike Villella Treasurer"

Vote Line C for "chuck it on the ground and forget about it".

Nice littering Teddy. Show how much you value the look of Montclair and the environment!

Posted by HidingInBaristaville | April 12, 2008 12:54 PM
 

John Doh, you had been behaving for a week or so and then you had to pull that stunt last week. Stop your nonsense or a big spanking is in order. Quiet up or fess up. Your choice.

Posted by John Duh! | April 12, 2008 1:41 PM
 

It looks like we've moved to the fiction section of the library. Give us ONE name of a REAL person on the MEC (Montclair Environmental Commission ) who has come out for Thrive.

And TELL US WHY MORIAL isn't coming tonight?

Is Nana correct? Nana
has been right on with so much else!

Posted by HidingInBaristaville | April 12, 2008 1:41 PM
 

I'm not even sure what Nana said. What black Baristas? Huh?

Posted by walleroo | April 12, 2008 3:55 PM
 

Oh please, the big spanking! I actually had nothing to do with the papering and if asked, would have suggested it not be done.

I've made my choice!

Nana is only right in that she may have complained...she gives herself to much credit if she thinks that had any result. The truth is that he was asked not to attend by the slate. If you want to know why, ask Ted tonight at his fundrtaiser.

The MEC (or at least a good porttion of it including the "big names" you've probably heard of) is backing Ted...why does that bother you so much. Did you think they were some how beholden to Fried? Sorry.

Vote badass...spank spank!

Posted by Jon Doh | April 12, 2008 3:59 PM
 

Has anyone here been to the BikeMontclair Website? Fried advocates some crazy ideas on there...taking out all of the stop signs, traffic lights, crosswalks etc. It sounds like he wants to turn the town into one giant bike path.

Posted by SoccerMom08 | April 12, 2008 4:45 PM
 

So, Teddy, you'e not in charge of your "team" in that they go ahead and do illegal things without you?

Right more of the "it wasn't my fault" "I didn't choose to do it".

Not a single real name has been mentioned in reference to the MEC. Instead we hear about "the big names". Name us a name Teddy.

Ted Mattox -- In Your Guts You Know He's Nuts

Vote Line C for "Change isn't in Montclair's future if you vote for us!"


Posted by HidingInBaristaville | April 12, 2008 4:59 PM
 

that's way better than the litter box that Mattox has already turned it into.

A vote for Mattox is a vote for self serving littering!

Posted by Belletones | April 12, 2008 5:00 PM
 

Ted is in charge of his team Jerry, I'm not and that's why I said I wouldn't have done it.

Go bike boy!

I'll let you guess on the names a bit more. But we had a nice discussion before the forum.

If you want Joyce light, vote Fried! Tobin's running the show and Fried won't stand up to him!

Tobin's slate, Tobin's values!

Isn't Tobin being sued for a conflict of interest? Is he too cozy with this particular developer?

Vote Tobin's slate and he'll provide a condo on every corner!!

Posted by Jon Doh | April 12, 2008 5:06 PM
 

As far as I understand it was Gerry Tobin
who put together the Unity ticket, and if elected it will be Gerry Tobin running the town. Tobin has done nothing but serve his own self interests during his 8 years on the council. I can't imagine that he or his slate will get many votes. Voters can see through the rhetoric.

Posted by SoccerMom08 | April 12, 2008 5:15 PM
 

That's correct!

Vote Tobin and his trusty sidekick, bike boy!

How can anyone seriously not see voting for a tobin ticket as staus quo? How is he any different than Joyce?

Posted by Jon Doh | April 12, 2008 6:04 PM
 

What rhetoric? The Unity slate is running on a platform of inclusion. A platform with a Theme of Community Activism.

You don't have that Teddy. Neither does Joyce.

Posted by HidingInBaristaville | April 12, 2008 6:50 PM
 

When asked about Morial the answer was " The truth is that he was asked not to attend by the slate. "

But your party was touted as a place to meet him and invitations were still being sent out and posted as late as yesterday.

Why weren't people being told that he wasn't going to be there?

Posted by Montclair.Mommy | April 12, 2008 7:53 PM
 

Belletones and Hiding appear to be one and the same person, both tedious in the extreme.

Posted by walleroo | April 12, 2008 8:51 PM
 

Walleroo, I'd like to respond to your comments regarding Pat?'s post.

While we could quibble whether the term "imminent" is appropriate, Pat's basic assertion that world oil supplies will be depleted before world coal supplies are depleted is correct. It's taken hundreds of millions of years to produce the earth?'s coal and oil deposits and just several hundred years to nearly deplete them. It is quite incredible if you stop to think about it. Right now, world oil consumption is at 80 billion (that?'s billion, not million) barrels per day. According to the United States Geological Survey peak oil extraction will occur in the year 2030 (based on known and estimated reserves and assuming a 2 percent per year increase in demand). According to the book The End of Oil (by Paul Roberts), this is a very conservative estimate and many experts think peak oil has already occurred or will occur in the next several years. I refer you to Roberts'? book or to Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_oil) to research the meaning of peak oil---but basically it means diminishing supplies of oil. And since oil (and coal and natural gas) are non-renewable sources of energy, once they are depleted, they are gone forever.

You are absolutely correct that there is currently greater demand for oil and that demand is pushing the price of oil higher. But if we have not already reached peak oil, sometime in the near future, certainly within the lifetime of my children, we will see that day? and at some point in the next 50 or 70 or 100 years there will be essentially none left to extract. The facts are also that most of the easily extracted oil has already been depleted and now the oil companies have to search for oil in the deep sea or extract it from tar sands in Canada, all of which are exceedingly expensive endeavors. We are headed for a perfect storm of diminishing supplies, higher research and development costs, and increasing demand that will push oil prices much higher than they are today. The days of cheap oil are gone.

On the other hand, there are still several hundred years left of world coal reserves. But coal is the dirtiest fossil fuel?, releasing pollutants (such as the mercury you find in your sushi) and more greenhouse gas emissions than oil or natural gas. And while you are right that there is very little chance of eliminating coal power plants anytime soon (unfortunately), we must insist that coal power plants utilize technology that minimizes, as much as possible, the release of pollutants and greenhouse gases.

There's lot of information available to educate yourself on the facts and the current state of knowledge, such as can be found at www.ucsusa.org or www.edf.org. If you are a global warming skeptic, I would suggest you go right to the main source and read the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reports that were released in 2007 (Fourth Assessment Report: Climate Change 2007 at www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/assessments-reports.htm).

Posted by Michael Yellin | April 12, 2008 10:03 PM
 

I'm pretty sure that 82 billion barrels a day should be 82 million per day.

Still an unbelievable amount.

Posted by paine | April 12, 2008 10:19 PM
 

No we're not walleroo. Hiding has been here a lot longer than I have.

I do agree that we're both against litter and blowhards like Teddy.

Posted by Belletones | April 12, 2008 10:20 PM
 

And now Teddy has his [deleted] on the Watercooler under someone else's name.

What's with that [deleted]. We all know it's you!

Posted by Belletones | April 12, 2008 10:36 PM
 

and walleroo.

I had thought of writing you in for the 4th ward but realized that I have no way of knowing if you live in the 4th ward.

And I have no idea how to write someone in.

I can't find instructions on the net.

Do you know how?

Posted by Belletones | April 12, 2008 10:42 PM
 

Yes, indeed, it's 80 million, not 80 billion barrels of oil per day. I misread my notes--sorry for the error.

Posted by Michael Yellin | April 12, 2008 10:47 PM
 

mr. doh,

wtf are you calling a serious and entirely credible mayoral candidate "bike boy"? that's so juvenile!

yes, jerry fried started the group bikemontclair for many good reasons. So? does that mean that he's not a smart man? a good person? a long time resident? a caring civic volunteer?

Posted by User Name | April 13, 2008 12:54 AM
 

He's probaby all of those, he's also....bike boy.

Are you really concerned with name calling here on barista? Have you been reading long?

Posted by Jon Doh | April 13, 2008 9:57 AM
 

so you're saying that you condone - and would like to continue - this immature behaviour?

Posted by User Name | April 13, 2008 11:06 AM
 

Jon Doh,

Are you calling him names because you've said
"I never said I didn't like looking at fried's junk as he showcases it around town.
Posted by Jon Doh | March 30, 2008 10:12 PM "

and now you don't want people to realize what you've been looking at and liking!

Posted by Belletones | April 13, 2008 11:24 AM
 

"so you're saying that you condone - and would like to continue - this immature behaviour?"

To which immature poster are you referring? You may want to go back and read the posts as there are quite a few.

Posted by Jon Doh | April 13, 2008 11:28 AM
 

Teddy,

"bike boy" is that like cabana boy, or like "bike boy" the movie


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061403/plotsummary

Posted by HidingInBaristaville | April 13, 2008 11:30 AM
 

Bike Boy's not bad...
lol
There are worse nick names in the world
Maybe he could ride around and campaign on a Moped...

 

wouldn't you call him moped-boy then?

Posted by HidingInBaristaville | April 13, 2008 1:34 PM
 

Jerry Fried's decision to run on a ticket with Gerry Tobin demonstrates his poor judgement. Fried has no relevant experience whatsoever.

Posted by SoccerMom08 | April 13, 2008 2:03 PM
 

Jerry Fried's got plenty of relevant experience! He's a grown man who's done many things in his life. He's lived in town for a long time. He's seen what the mayors and town councils have done and what needs to be done. He's been employed in various corporate scenarios. He's volunteered in town. He attends a church in town. He's biked all around town. He's organized events in town He's made a lot of friends in town. He's made no enemies in town. He loves Montclair, and he's a smart and good person who wants to do more for the future of the town.

Posted by User Name | April 13, 2008 3:28 PM
 

Thank you for the factoids and Web sites, Mr. Yellin, which should be helpful in my efforts to educate myself about the imminent catastrophe. Or is it catastrophes (plural)? And are they all imminent, or are some more imminent than others?

Posted by walleroo | April 13, 2008 4:25 PM
 

Fried has also raised quite a bit of money for the town.

Posted by HidingInBaristaville | April 13, 2008 6:18 PM
 

I get very tired of these "no experience" rants. Nobody (except for maybe Obamessiah and those like him) who knows they want to be a politician from childhood. What speaks most to me about Fried, and I don't know him personally and wouldn't know him if he walked up to me, is that he is not Mattox who so often is very confrontational and doesn't seem to choose his battles. I believe he is well-intentioned. Enough has been said about Ms. Michaelson and enough of her expertise and/or lack thereof has been displayed. I would reckon that anybody who has been in a business setting for as long as Mr. Fried and who is known to have volunteered about town is just as well qualified as any of the others running. I do know that I have lived more than a decade in Montclair. During that time my taxes have skyrocketed. Services have declined. Many poor decisions have been made. It takes 20 minutes to drive across town and another 20 to find a parking place once there. The town's infrastructure literally is crumbling. Our cops have brand new cars and trucks and things that go but nobody seems to be able to stop the vandalism at train stations etc. Phone call and email pleas to those in charge rarely are answered. When they are answered too often the response is "I will look into it."
I don't know much about Mr. Tobin. We should research whether we want to throw out the baby with the bathwater. My extinct now is to vote against anybody currently in office. I just don't know as of yet.
The only candidate I ever see putting in writing exactly what he or she wants to do is Cary Africk. I don't know quite how or why that is. I lot into Montclair-related blogs and see where he takes an issue and gives his view of it. I've also seen him take the time to look up information for people. In the interest of full disclosure, I live in Ward 2. I will be voting for Mr. Africk because the guy has been going to town meetings etc. longer and more often than many of our elected officials. He's made himself personally and intellectually available through his walks about town...always ready to discuss issues. I remain undecided about others on his slate because I am not done researching. I am unhappy with the responses from our current Ward 2 representative whenever I or my neighbors have contacted her. I also, quite frankly, think Ms. Michaelson has done an absolutely horrendous job and Ms. Schrager seems a bit too tied to Ms. Michaelson. Anyway. That's my input for now. It might not be worth two bits worth of dried ice. I will vote for anybody who can convince Hartnett to either do his job or get out of town. That guy makes me want to take a dip of snuff.

Posted by oh puleeze | April 13, 2008 6:34 PM
 

So, why did Morial not show at Teddy's thang??

Why did Teddy's treasurer, Mike Villella, approve papering cars at the Environmental Forum? The flyer clearly says "Paid for by Thrive Montclair, Mike Villella Treasurer.

Why was litter placed on my car by this irresponsible candidate's people. Why did Villella think he could litter my car with impunity.

Teddy, please do not place your garbage/litter on my property. Next you'll be throwing your flyers on my lawn and walking away.

LITTERBUG

Posted by Belletones | April 13, 2008 8:04 PM
 

I check in almost a full week later and it's the same bs...

Who cares about the paper and flyers. All the slates are producing propaganda. It's tired already. I saw Peter Zorich postcards at the train station on the ground and they said paid for by Partnership Montclair, David Grill treasurer...it doen't mean he put them there, nor Zorich.

Has there been anything substantial for the undecideds? Anything actually useful?

There is a League of Women voters forum/debate coming up though I don't know the exact date.

Any more fundraisers or any meet the candidates type things? Anyone go?

Posted by DannyZo | April 13, 2008 9:18 PM
 

Other slates are not papering cars with non-environemental abandon.

Teddy and his cohorts have shown us what they think of the environement. and what they think of our ideas on environmental issues.

They have shown us that they can't be trusted with our votes.

Say one thing and do something else. That's Teddy's way.

Posted by Belletones | April 13, 2008 11:30 PM
 

Danny -

The Unity Montclair slate has a website with email access to each of the candidates. Not sure about Partnership and Thrive but I'll bet most of the folks running are fairly accessible and willing to answer questions you might have. Info on site like this with anonymous posters is not the best place to get factual info. Or you can try the Montclair Watercooler which at least requires posters to identify themselves and has moderators to keep the posts on topic.

Posted by jerseygurl | April 14, 2008 7:15 AM
 

The Tobin-Unity ticket is comprised of nice enough people. My concern is that none of them have done anything tangible for Montclair. Ted Mattox has been an independent voice on the council for 4 year. He has stood up to reckless spending and no-bid contracts. Montclair desperately needs to get it's fiscal house in order, and from what I've seen, Ted has the best plan to do it.

Posted by SoccerMom08 | April 14, 2008 9:12 AM
 

Or you can try the Montclair Watercooler which... has moderators to keep the posts on topic.

And to keep out comments they disagree with.

Posted by walleroo | April 14, 2008 9:57 AM
 

[the moderators of Montclair Watercooler] "keep out comments they disagree with."

Oh puhlease!

What have you written that they haven't allowed?? Just post it here!

Right: I didn't think so.

Posted by User Name | April 14, 2008 2:32 PM
 

"The Tobin-Unity ticket is comprised of nice enough people. My concern is that none of them have done anything tangible for Montclair. Ted Mattox has been an independent voice on the council for 4 year. He has stood up to reckless spending and no-bid contracts. Montclair desperately needs to get it's fiscal house in order, and from what I've seen, Ted has the best plan to do it.

Posted by SoccerMom08 | April 14, 2008 9:12 AM "

Thanks [deleted],

it's good to know that you'll stand up for your man. even when he's not the right person for the job.

yo go girl!

Posted by Belletones | April 14, 2008 3:09 PM
 
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