Palin Pokes Fun At Palin

Hilarious! All the skits were great. I can't get enough of Amy Poehler doing the Palin rap.

Agree the skits were great! The debate skit last Thursday night was funny, too.

Great skits...no doubt in my mind now that's ready to be one breath away from the helm.

Weekend update was a powerhouse.

But the funniest moment was the "I'm no Angel" skit.

Poehler rules the world!!

And watching how charming Palin was, I think the Repubs made a mistake by keeping her under wraps (although she's been quietly drawing almost as many folks as Obama at her rallies-- playing up the base.)

Say hello to your mother for me....

Tina Fey and Amy Poehler killed it. The rap was amazing! Todd Palin in that snow suit put it over the top.

Gov. Palin stayed the ENTIRE episode. Isn't that a little weird? Doesn't she have anything more important to do?

Palin was a good sport, but Amy Poehler (8 1/2 months pregnant?) jumping around the stage stole the show. And just as I was thinking her impression of Palin with no attempt to actually look or sound like Palin drew on Chevy Chase's Gerald Ford, Palin gave us a "Good night and have a pleasant tomorrow."

Palin was a good sport. Why do we have to find a reason to criticize her?

A mostly great show. GREAT McGrubers! Poehler was scary great--I thought she was going to deliver right then and there. Love Baldwin with the gov--there's a match made in another universe. Love Lorne's 30 Rock comment. Remember the cat/dog sterilization piece--hysterical. I know what you mean, Becky. for her 15 or so minutes, she sure hung around. Loved the musical guest Adele, too. Fey = amazing. Andy Samberg...if I was younger!!!

Palin is awesome.

When it comes to using a tele-prompter or reading a prepared script, there's nobody better.

A hearbeat away? Not so much.

Next stop for Sarah: Fox Noise.

(Because she's the enemy, Nellie. The enemy. Didn't you see her horns?)

Forgot about Todd in the snowsuit dancing!!!!!

And if Palin had other things to do, can I criticize the Obama meal at the Waldorf Astoria (steamed lobsters, Iranian caviar, and champagne at 4 PM?)?

(Both dumb things to criticize... But if we must:

(What's with the 2 women in blue shirts with a police escort jogging through town?)

Surely, how well a Vice-Presidential candidate did or did not do on a TV show which long ago had its "day" does not determine fitness for the VP office?

That said, can anyone picture Joe Biden being as gracious about, say, a skit about hair plugs?

If Palin had refused to go on SNL, she would have been criticized for that. I agree a candidate's fitness for office should not be determined by his or her presence on a TV show, but she did show graciousness and class by appearing.

I doubt Palin would have gone for it if the skit also torpedoed some of her fawning yeehaws.

She's not the first politcian to appear on SNL, nor will seh be the last. I thought she did a great job and was a good sport about it all. The skits and rap song were hilarious!

Cathar,

Joe Biden was very gracious about a skit SNL did of him and the mention of his hair plugs. He went on the Today Show and Good Morning America and was laughing when they replayed the skit for him. He said, "I wish I had that much hair".

Once again, JP, you chose to employ acceptable racist terms to slag at Palin supporters.

In your world, I guess, calling folks "yeehaws" (fawning or otherwise) is perfectly acceptable.

If tossed at Obama and those fawning Black folks, what would you use?

I bet you wouldn't have the courage the say anything other than Black or Africa-American.

Holla Boyz? Homeboyz? Nah, you wouldn't dare.

It's more about Palin loving the spotlight than whether or not she has free time.

However, it's good to have a little humor to get us through these last weeks before the election, no matter who we support. How great were the jokes between Obama and McCain last week at that charity event? That was surprisingly funny stuff.

Gigi33,

Did Mr. Bide graciously discuss his Botox?

Remember, this election is about a 3-letter word:

J-O-B-S!!!!

(Biden said this. He's supposed to be smart....)

Biden is lyin', plagiarizin' bum.

As Scott Donlan quipped in Best In Show, "she looks like a cocktail waitress on an oil rig."

She looks like the hot school marm to me. Maybe she'd make a good president. I think McCain is way more qualified than me to judge her fitness for office. I think I just need to trust more and not be so resistant to the idea of Sarah carrying the 'football' around.

Let's see...

Basketball..
Tatas..
B'ball..
Hooters..
Roundball..
Cans..

Oh well, I guess I'll decide when I'm standing in the booth. Close my eyes and push a button.

Wrongo, Prof, there is nothing racist about the term yeehaw. It simply evokes a sound common in country music, and country music followers come from every ethnic group.

They also tend to come from parts of the country Palin labels as the "real" America.

Don't forget "pro-America"

Good ol' prof - its all about the personalities and invective.

Got to attack Omaba on his personality.

Got to defend Palin from attacks.

Them plagiarism charges are way slim-pickens too.

Whatever - "mud" is "mud". And if prof wants to say that some "mud" is truer than other "mud", more power to 'em.

Palin has "horns" and the media is protecting Biden from that there powerful "anti-botox vote".

Hee haw.

Obama is made to be the enemy by prof.

People who make Palin the enemy are the enemy to prof.

You swapped all your credibility for invective, prof.

But invective is fun - so I defend your right to use it. Just don't pretend it is anything else.

(Former, I have no idea what you're talking about. But since you seem to think you have a point, I wish you well with it.... Also, I'm glad to see you learned a new word- invective- and you used it 3 times so-- IT'S YOURS!!!)

Perlstein,

Defend as you like, you might even find some folks here to go along. But again, if it were Obama, NONE of your snide remarks would be used.

No way. You are not that courageous.

But "yeehaws"? Surely, you clearly believed, NO ONE would have a problem with it.

So like many, you happily employ offensive terms to a group you find safe to offend.

(And then you back-peddle and claim otherwise... Your true colors were revealed before and continue to shine with every new post!)

There's a group called Yee Haw's? And it's safe to offend them?

YeeHaw's, by definition, are impervious to stereotypical attack. The high beer content in their bloodstream effectively renders any insult effectless. However, if you use the word 'interesting' in the presence of a YeeHaw you may wind up with a bit of trouble on your hands.

Didn't someone post a YouTube video of some Yeehaws a while back? Yeehaws, it might be safe to assume, are fans of "Hee Haw."

Do Yeehaws buy geegaws?

Gigi33, Biden was gracious after the fact and at a fair distance. My point, which you didn;t either get or note, was that the possibility of him being so gracious as to actually participate himself in such a skit remains faint at best.

The plagiarism charges are not small beer, Former NJ Guy... Such matters generally merit dismissal from law or graduate school. And for good reason.

That being caught at it at least twice during his prior stab at the Presidential nomination of his party did not merit Biden dismissal from his party of starvelings just indicates the degree of desperation under which they generally operate. Neil Kinnock on the other side of "the pond," however, from whom Biden stole those speeches, was supposedly not at all amused. In this respect, if in no other, the UK's Labour Party held to a much higher standard than our native Dems.

(To me it of course also recalls the Democratic Party's blitheness when it was revealed that Teddy Kennedy, probably its last remaining "lion," had paid someone else to take an exam for him; so much for the party of the little guy, since little guys almost never themselves do any such thing.)

do Yeehaws use seesaws?

Yeehaws yell HeeHaw while riding Seesaws.

Gee prof, I'm surprised you didn't get my point.

You use broad character based attacks all the time (regarding Obama, Biden, Dems, and what not).

The more superficial and derogatory the better (up to a point - some lines you don't cross).

You defend those you support with "tit for tat" rebuttals. How dare anyone make a character assessment!

Prof can punch first and then a second time (in self defense).

You also play the same argument twice - from different sides.

You tell us Obama supporters play the race card by saying you can't talk about his race.

Then you'll say we can't talk about Palin in terms of regional dialect.

Isn't that part of her identity too?

It's not about pointing out hypocrisy. You are frequently taking two sides - arguing for one thing (that even seems made up to me, but whatever) and then arguing against the other thing.

The "other side" is wrong twice, in your eyes.

Yeah, Obama is worshiped and Palin is demonized.

Biden is a liar. That must offset a legislative opinion that Palin violated an ethics law. Whatever. Tit for tat.

Botox and hair plugs - ha ha. You have found his weakness.

Yeah, much of what you say is invective. You been using it for so long you don't even know it any more.

"Then you'll say we can't talk about Palin in terms of regional dialect."

I find it odd that folks make fun of her regional dialect actually. Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Dubya, all have regional accents. To people outside of the NY metro area, we all have regional accents. What's the big deal?

Bet they're nice as meemaws!

Mrs - People always make fun of dialects including W's, Bubba Clinton's and Henry K's just to name a few.

I'm not denying that they do, JG. I just think they act as if Palin is the only Prez candidate in creation to have a regional dialect.

Not to rain on your fun here, but maybe we could take a moment to say some prayers or whatever you'd like to call them, to whatever deity or universal-karma you may believe in, for those tiny kids who were part of the overturned school bus accident on Route 78 in Newark this afternoon. News says non-life threatening injuries, but on one of the sites I saw a pic of a little sweetie being carried by a Trooper and it made me want to go out and hug 'em all.

p.s. Mrs. M, when I was a young'un still living in So.Cal, we used to ask the girl from PA to say "coffee" so we could giggle about it (she did too). When I moved here almost 20 years ago, the locals would laugh at my pronunciation of "ferry". Now, when I call the folks back home, they get the giggles at *me*! (Hm, seems like I got my share of laughing-at!)

I don't want to get into the topic of making fun of how someone sounds (really, I don't), but these things become a matter of context or degree.

At least in how they are perceived.

"No tickie, no starchie" may be intended inoffensively, but it's also a caricature.

A regional dialect, if exaggerated, can do the same (implying uneducated or unsophisticated).

(Que prof to tell us we can't make fun of how Obama speaks because it's racist. I guess if we had a Chinese-American candidate with an accent everyone would be all over themselves in unrestrained bowing gestures and saying "ah so, my young glass-hap-er" in reference to an old TV show).

Prof, Prof, Prof, you are too much. We have reached a new frontier. Those who call others yeehaws are now racist. Tell me Prof, when was the last time you listened to Hank Williams ? Tell me, is there a Tear in Your Beer? Would you like some Jambalaya? Will you Ever Get Out of This World Alive? Have you recently gone Honkeytonkin? Is there a Hole in Your Bucket? I'd sing Hey Good Lookin' to ya, but I'm fairly certain that I don't know what you look like.

Mrs - People always make fun of dialects including W's, Bubba Clinton's and Henry K's just to name a few.
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But in this election, we disproportionately make fun of Palin. The other candidates have imitable qualities, too, just like you and me....

One politician who has been a bige butt of jokes over the years is Ted Kennedy, but we learned to respect him.

Please, anyone running for public office is fodder for the late night shows. She sounds like Marge Gunderson from "Fargo". She's McCain's Dan Quayle.

What with her accent, catch phrases and folksy mannerisms, Sarah Palin just happens to be particularly ripe for satire.

Some seem to have this silly egalitarian notion that all Presidential candidates should be equally mocked, and that Palin is being picked on because she is parodied more than the others. She just gives comedians more to work with.

I happen to like the Fargo/"Yoopanese" accent. Little bit of Scandinavia/Canada/Midwest thrown in there. Eh?

Funny how this turned to "regional accents" when Perlstein's post(s) was in no way making that argument.

He was, plain and simple, trying to slag Palin with an "acceptable" racial slag.

So while I find the accent discussion interesting, it does not hide the fact that Perlstein believes that it is okay to make racial comments about White folks (who live outside of Baristaville, cling to guns, religion, etc.).

When I asked what he would call her if she were Black, he's silent.

BECAUSE he believes it is okay to make "fun" racist comments as long as it's directed towards White folks (who live in the South and West, with their funny ways....).

So Perlstein hide behind the "I love Hank Williams" all you like.

I bet some of your best friends are Black too.

That's cool because some of mine are too.

And I'm sure you love old school rap, too.

I said a hip hop the hippie the hippie to the hip hip hop......

(Former, I'm struggling to figure you out. I appreciate the space between your sentences, but it's the rambling point I'm having a hard time with.)

Prof, you generalize too much.

Perlstein,

I may. Most do.

But understand, a number of years ago I stopped using terms that I used for years because they were insensitive to other... Wanda Sykes is in a new PSA addressing one of those words.

With that, I find particular offense from well meaning liberals (read: my friends in Baristaville) who believe that making fun of poor or Southern White folks is okay. Even funny.

I don't.

Therefore, I found your post offensive.

Some might not.

But that's a generalization.

Palin is hotter than Tina Fey.

I had no idea Yee Haws was the term now used for poor whites from the South and West. I always thought it was more of a cultural and personal taste choice to be a Country Western or Bluegrass fan - perhaps rooted in more rural traditions and but surely not limited to poor white folks. So I went to Google. There are any number of companies that sell products, music etc. related to Cowboys, Bluegrass, two-steppin' and line dancing.

A few years ago I was a producer on a project in Capetown that required filming a scene with a barn full of middle aged two-steppin" Western style dancers. My casting person assured me we would have no problem finding experienced dancers. Sure enough, we had about two hundred people who showed up not only knowing how to two-step, but dressed in appropriate gear including cowboy boots and hats. The best on in the bunch was a Japanese businessman. In South Africa. You could have knocked me over with a feather. They also knew the words to just about every piece of music we played.

prof has a white friend so I really don't know what everyones' giving him flack for.

Out of curiosity prof, where did you come upon the official definition and guideline for usage of 'yeehaw'? What possible irrefutable reason could you have to suggest your view of the word yeehaw is not simply your opinion and somehow holds more water than everyone else's?

Good grief, doesn't anyone remember H. Ross Perot and his verbal peculiarities?

RealHawker sez, "Palin is hotter than Tina Fey."

Even Tina acknowledges this but what about Caribou Barbie's brain? Where is that at?

I'm sure Perlstein is thrilled to have 'ol dannyboo(r) as his defender.

But I'll play.

My opinions are my own (obviously), danny. You can disagree.

I don't really care.

But no one has answered the question, would you use a similar term to describe someone Black?

[Silence.....]

Therefore, I believe (there, is that better- my thoughts only) Perlstein engaged in a racially insensitive characterization. (One many believe acceptable, but insensitive nonetheless.)

But if you see calling someone a "yeehaw" as nothing more than fun-talk. That's on you.

It's clear what Perlstein was implying.

I think, jerseygurl, that intellectually you can always be knocked over with a feather. (So democratic of you, however, to drop the "g" on "two-steppin"; yes, that marks you as a woman of the people, you betcha.)

And I note dannyboor is still posting in his self-ordained role as the official (Caucasian, alas) arbiter of all matters racial. But why?

Actually, dannyboor, I read that "apologia pro vita sua"
you provided for yourself yesteday with, initially, interest. Yet t all boiled down drearily to this: you care passionately about these things, therefore you are entitled to be bullying and, yes, boorish towards everyone else. Merely because you claim to care more than others. Your quakificationis your immense ego. And that's all you have to offer.

Really, such an attempt at self-sanctification is distressing, to say the least. One wonders why you even continue posting for such benighted souls as exist in Baristaville. You should be posting somewhere where folks could really appreciate your love of self. The daily paper in Vaduz, Lichtenstein, say. Or perhaps via daily dispatches from the Cuban News Agency (where they already know a good deal about personality cults).

Gee Cathar. Is it at all possible for you ever make a point without insulting people with whom you disagree? The mean spiritedness just for the sake of it is really offensive. Talk about posting incessantly and self sanctification - you are a master bully whose ego knows no bounds. And you're nasty too.

Prof,

I've been posting about Obama's court skills for a while now. I guess this could viewed as offensive. He's a black man and, of course, since he's black he has to be good at basketball.

I played a lot of basketball at the Orange YMCA - was there 3-4 nights a week for a few years - and I can attest to the fact that not all black people can jump or play ball. It's an offensive stereotype. Just as offensive to me as the one about white boys not being good at sports.

is it offensive to assume a positive attribute? Stereotype, yes. Offensive? No.

Are gay people offended when they're assumed to have good taste?

ROC,

Gay people might be offened by the notion that their aesthetic sense springs from their homosexuality and nothing else.

Just as many black people must be offended by the 'positive' stereotypes that are promulgated regarding their sense of rhythmn, musical, and athletic skills.

ROC raises an interesting point.

To me, I try to avoid any stereotypes: "If you're A, then you must be B." I think stereotypes can impair our judgement about other people. Why not just get to know someone first as a person? And as most of us know, stereotypes are often untrue, i.e., blacks are better at sports, gays have great taste, Jews are good at business, all Republicans are religious fundies, all Dems are tree-hugging hippies.

Nowhere is this truer than in the sport of running. You would be surprised how many fast people there are who don't fit the stereotypical image of what a runner should look like.

All Dems aren't tree-hugging hippies???

Actually, believe it or not, I have met some "centrist" Dems who can carry on an intelligent argument for their views without getting all frothy about it. They do exist, but sadly, in short supply,

cathar is a self-parody and a blatantly obvious one at that. He would have been the perfect case study in ideological totalism and human zealotry. Like cro's glorious display in adolescent behavior yesterday, cathar is unparalleled in his self-masturbatory tirades that are nothing more than eloquent ad hominem attacks which distract the reader from the realization that he actually has nothing of substance to offer to the conversation. Nothing but an insult. Completely devoid of thoughts on the topic at hand. It's obvious in his questioning my presence here while failing to consider the inherent irony in such a query from a man who calls me a 'boor' but displays a compulsive obsession for me. If I'm such a 'boor' and the majority of Baristaville are boring and uneducated bleeding hearts, the appropriate question is what are you doing here in a community where you are self-admittedly in the minority? Wouldn't your interests be better served at TheDailyBeast or speed dialing the Rush Limbaugh show in order to get your thoughts broadcast to the audience who are the polar opposite of the majority of people who inhabit Baristanet?

I'm sure you won't answer that either but instead will attack a typo I don't care enough to correct or my average grasp of linguistic syntax.

And yes prof. I would call someone black a yeehaw. I refer to anyone with a close-minded mentality a yeehaw. I often alternate between yeehaw and bumpkin but they're basically the same thing. Unlike others here I've never attributed a specific music genre to them although I have noticed a propensity to listen to country music or 80's hair bands. Likewise, my personal usage of yeehaw and bumpkin (as is many others' I'm sure) knows no economic distinction either as some wealthy folks can be yeehaws or bumpkins just as certainly as someone who is poor.

I think yeehaw has more to do with a state of mind as opposed to race.

But I'm sure yeehaws far and wide are warmed by your struggle to make their voices heard. Yeehaw Rights have been ignored for far too long and it's about time someone took a stand. So as an expert, what do you suggest would be the politically correct nomenclature for yeehaws?

Prof was saying earlier that no one had used any stereotypical depictions of a candidate who was black, although, in weeks past the Prof had 'poo pooed' Obama's blackness as not being genuine.

I've been posting 'ad-nauseum' about his court skillz and thing that these comments from me could be taken on the same level as somebody calling southern white people 'Yee haws'.

What do you think?

MB,

I said, I did not consider Obama to come from the same background as Black Americans.

No so hard to understand.

That you and others fail to understand or choose to mischaracterize my point is your business.

Funny though, the reason I'm voting for him is because he's Black.

(And strangely, to some, that's racist.)

Understand, I believe and approve of people self-selecting their tribe.

But there are shared experiences and cultures that come with those tribes.

For me, Obama does not share a culture or experience with Black Americans.

Despite this, he considers himself Black. As do most.

I have no problem with that.

He's Black.

And I'm not passing up the chance to vote for a Black guy as my President.

As for your ballin' comments.

That was specific to Obama (and his skillz) and in NO WAY would I consider this racial.

It was also true because, I believe you (or someone) linked to him playing ball.

Much different than call someone a "yeehaw."

Now if you said something about, some "b-ball playing President," with no specific context, that would be different.

The brotha can play ball.

You just gave him his props for doing it.

Me either.

prof, I'm interested in hearing more about your thoughts regarding Obama not sharing culture or experience with black Americans.

What, in your estimation, is the reason for that?

I dunno Prof, somehow you think yeehaw is a racial slur. Maybe it's mocking a certain culture. Sort of like mocking Birkenstocks and Granola. But last I looked, there was no yeehaw race.

So this is where I repeat what I wrote in earlier posts and you tell me I'm wrong/dumb/racist for my beliefs...

Thanks, but I'll decline.

However, please check the search function on the Barista home page.

prof -

In my view, you use (and have used) all types of fabricated reasons to oppose Obama.

That you can site his ethnic background as another not surprising.

Nearly all the "themes" you spout on this topic (why Obama is unqualified or should be "voted against") I have heard from Rush Limbaugh.

Rush fabricates a narrative of evidence and many of his listeners take his final results (which are buzz words and "talking points" and emotion-based subjective rhetoric) and repeat these over and over.

The weak narratives that Rush builds are rarely defended (by folks like you) or even made explicit.

What occurs is that the "end results" (such as the buzz words and invective and resulting emotional partisanship) more often simply get bantered about and on blogs like this and in personal conversations off-line.

In a forum like Baristanet the discussions narrow down and often become personal attacks (aimed at dissenting views). That may not be the intent (of you or of others) but that is the nature of the rhetoric.

I don't say you can't (or even shouldn't) build the framework of your discussions in this manner. That's an element of your right to free speech.

I do not want to silence you (or even Rush - I think there some elements of value in some small bit of what he says - only those elements of value are only used to attack others - almost never in any constructive manner).

But as far as I can see you aren't doing much more than spouting fabricated "talking points".

In your own charming way.

You have my word that I will not tell you that you are wrong, dumb, or racist.

I'm genuinely interested in a the perspective of a black man who claims Obama does not share culture or experience with black Americans.

For the record, the lobster/Waldorf Astoria Michelle Obama story is not true, Page Six admits. They weren't even staying at that hotel.