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1. POSTED BY Sandy  |  January 28, 2009 @ 8:20 pm

   My wife is very green. It sometimes annoys me, I mean our house is starting to look like a holding facility for cardboard and for glass/plastic recycling and all the other things it involves. Sometimes I’ll toss some packaging matter into the garbage can, and she’s right there to fish it out!
   But we both agree that we are not about to drive one of those awful looking Prius cars. Sticking with American!
   It makes no sense to help the environment & hurt American industry. It’s like washing one hand. But,when I drive down Route 1 and see all the smokstacks on the 18 wheelers sending all that Diesel gas fumes up and away….I am wondering if it’s really about clean air or a new doorway to big big and bigger business opportunities in the recycling and “clean air” industry. I mean, this guy is driving from Phila. Pa to Newark sending fumes of smoke all the way and my wife grabs a plastic straw outta the garbage???
2. POSTED BY overthinking montclair  |  January 28, 2009 @ 10:38 pm

   Nerdy comment –
   When I see something like this, I usually wonder, “what does it mean to be a Doctor of Environmental Management?” Is there a community of environmental managers with common training and approaches that are also different than the training and approaches in other fields?
   Are there really jobs for environmental managers that a student will be more qualified for because they’ve written a thesis presenting their original work in this field?
   Or is this just another example of a bureaucracy being created to justify more administrative overhead and meaningless division between academics.
   Not sure who said this, but I’ve been convinced it’s true for some time: Academic arguments are so very intense because there is so very little at stake.
   Disclosure, I don’t know a thing about environmental management and have no real opinion about this program. It’s probably somewhere between great and useless.
3. POSTED BY J Perlstein  |  January 29, 2009 @ 6:52 am

   Hannity loves his Cadillac Escalade Hybrid, and has stated so publicly.
   I think the hybrid part boosts his mpg from 12 to 14. But he’s trying out a hot-air converter that connects the engine to a microphone just over the steering wheel. That’ll boost him to about 40 mpg.
4. POSTED BY jonesy  |  January 29, 2009 @ 8:09 am

   Overthinking: that argument could be used to question the need for studying any discipline. The fact is that education is the most important first step of figuring out how to solve the problems we created before we realized we needed education on this subject. As you may have noticed, there are varying approaches in this field and our understanding of how best to steward our environment is growing every day. Yes, there is a lot of overlap with engineering, geology and other sciences, but there is also a need for environmental “managers” at every manufacturing company, large institutions, in government, etc. Whether those people are helped by studying the issues related to their chosen field more than simply doing it is another question. I would answer yes, others might not.
5. POSTED BY violet  |  January 29, 2009 @ 9:31 am

   I took a class last semester that was taught by the teacher who was fighting to have this major added to the university and it was one of the most invaluable classes I have taken at this school. (and it was my last semester!) It makes sense that no one has heard of this type of study, I hadn’t heard of anything that the professor was teaching either, I just signed up for the class because I needed it to graduate. The class was based around sustainability, both environmentally and in business ethics.
   My understanding of this degree is that it teaches students to work with businesses and local governments to help make what they’re doing (their product and work space) more sustainable and “green”. It takes a lot of knowledge about the way the earth works and the way our economy and everything in between works to truly understand the problems we are facing as a generation and I believe that this is a great and worthwhile degree that they are adding to the school. More so that basketweaving and whatever other bullshit courses they offer.
   my two cents.
   on a side note, before you blast something, perhaps you should do some research about it first.
6. POSTED BY AliAkbar  |  January 29, 2009 @ 9:57 am

   Wake up Baristaville! The whole Going Green\Global Warming revolution is based on the concept of more government control, basically a Socialist Agenda. Politicos don’t really care about the environment it is just an issue being used to get control. Studies have been conducted which conclude that telling us Global Warning is the sure demise of mankind works; people are willing to give up control to the government(s) thinking they have the answer.
   Look at Carol Browner, President Obama’s Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change and member of the Commission for a Sustainable World Society (CSWS). At the Congress of the Socialist International held last June 30-July2, the CSWS officially resolved that “market solutions alone are insufficient and will not provide the financial support and resources necessary to achieve the required combination of deep emission reduction, adaptation to already changing climate conditions, energy security and equitable and environmentally sound economic development.” That’s bureaucratese. It means that international taxes should be imposed to provide the “resources necessary” to impose what the CSWS repeatedly refers to as a “regime” against “global warming.”
   It’s not even about U.S control; it’s about World control of all economies.
   Before you can say “Cap and Trade” our policies will be coming out of Brussels!
7. POSTED BY jerseygurl  |  January 29, 2009 @ 11:38 am

   Take a deep breath AllAkbar. I seriously doubt all the world’s leading scientists are colluding so that the world can be turned into a large social experiment.
8. POSTED BY J Perlstein  |  January 29, 2009 @ 12:27 pm

   JG,
   perhaps AliAkbar might already know that If we go green, we transfer a huge chunk of the “World control of all economies ” away from the Arabian Gulf dictatorships, and in our direction.
9. POSTED BY mathilda  |  January 29, 2009 @ 1:29 pm

   Nobody should be taking a “deep breath”–the climate crisis is too dire for such luxuries. It’s time to get worked up, and not calm down until fossil fuels are a thing of the past, and we’re all living once again close to nature. The Obama administration may seem radical in its reversal of the Bush stance toward global warming, but in truth it has much more radical plans in its back pocket. The nationalization of banks may seem to the unwashed (ie all of you) to be completely unrelated to environmental policy, but in fact it’s a Trojan Horse to a complete socialization of the American economy. I know the world “socialize” will trigger howls of objection, but a government takeover of the economic system (such as it is) is the only way to move the planet in a green direction. The days of private sector free market capitalism are over, and we will all be better, and greener, for it.
10. POSTED BY AliAkbar  |  January 29, 2009 @ 2:37 pm

    mathilda I agree with you on everything especially the nationliazation of the banks. But….your last line “and we will be better, and greener, for it”
    The “better and greener” is a matter of opinion. Of course I would have to say “subjugated and neutered”
    Come to think of it, sounds like what my wife would like to do to me.
    Mazel tov

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