
Michael Jackson was rushed to the hospital this afternoon in Los Angeles. The LA Times has confirmed Jackson died from a heart attack he suffered at his home. The shocker followed today’s earlier celebrity obit of Farrah Fawcett, who died of cancer at 62. More on the Jackson story, from CNN.
Leave your remembrances, and your thoughts about the unforgettable superstar, in comments.




truly a sad day.
I still have the record that was on the back of an ‘Alphabits’ cereal box, that I cut myself at the age of 5-ish… and you can tell by the jagged edges!
I remember watching the entire family – but always had my eyes on Michael’s eyes, he mesmerized me. I loved seeing him on the specials, but what I particularly remember is on Wonderama, each of the Jackson Five were standing on individual cylinders of different heights and colors – very 70′s!
I have always felt sad for the iconic life that he had no choice to lead. How could he have ever been normal. He could never even ride his bike to the corner store for a piece of gum.
His name and face were everywhere. Across the entire world. There was never silence for him. I hope there is peace where he is today and forever.
Also have such sad feelings about losing Farrah Fawcett. I recall when I saw ‘the Burning Bed’ what a different perspective I had for the woman that I grew up thinking all woman had to be if they wanted to have men think they were sexy.
a truly sad day…
A brilliant and iconic musician and performer. He is the first artist I remember being a “fan” of as a little kid – I even made my own MJ glove, sequins and all. I never outgrew his music and still have some songs on my iPod. And as much fame and fortune as he had, seems that he probably had a tough time for much of his life.
Blmfldgirl said everything. What a great icon.
HE made history. Unforgettable!!!
What a sad news. What a sad day.
R.I.P Michael
Yawn
I was thinking that a bit earlier too Ice, and I’m not a fan, but I must admit I have the Thriller LP and Off the Wall CD.
Iceman, thank you for leaving that post. Very moving.
Spiro, just be glad Ice didn’t call MJ a ‘gorilla,’ like he did with a certain black president we all know.
Farrah Fawcett’s death was sad but predictable. Michael Jackson’s was shocking. Whatever your thoughts about him, you can’t deny that he was a once-in-a-lifetime talent. I never saw anyone, with the exception of Fred Astaire and Ray McDonald, move like that on a dance floor. He was also a very generous man, giving to charities and inviting kids with cancer to Neverland. This being said, you can’t deny that he was a troubled, tragic figure. As Blmfldgirl points out, he never had a normal childhood and from all accounts, had a very demanding father who never really let Michael be a kid.
RIP, MJ.
I am a little bit perplexed…
Michael J. was an UNDENIABLE musical talent. An innovator and entertainer for sure. The type of player that comes along once every 100 years, BUT I don’t understand how so many people can be so heartbroken given his personal history.
Was this kind of abrupt, drug-induced death unexpected? I don’t think so…He was a maniacal socio-path/child molester who has been uncomfortable in his own skin for at least 20 years. Its weird how in death, society seems to remember and embrace the good times while sweeping the deepest, darkest, sickest moments under the rug…
Oh Boy, Here come the apologists “he never had a childhood”. Thats excuse for his behavior,lol. There are countless adults “who didn’t have childhoods’ for many reasons, music, sports , academics, entertainment that didn’t turnout that way. The only difference is he was able to buy his way out problems.
Stunningly insightful post as always, Ice.
King_Harvest,
A) Where did you read it was drug-induced or are you just jumping to conclusions? I’m thinking the latter (though I only read 1 article on the incident).
B) All his faults aside (of the ones you listed above, none were proven in court, btw), he was a great entertainer who touched the lives of millions. One day after his death, it is not unreasonable that people are more vocally remembering the good more than the bad.
If you had an uncle who was an absolute laugh riot but hit the bottle a bit too hard, would you spend the night at his wake telling some of his funnier stories or going on about the time he got a DUI and speculating that his drinking lead to his death?
If the latter, then I hope to never be at the same funeral home as you.
GNM,
Any article covering his death describes his SEVERE pain-killer addiction since an on-stage incident in 1993 and people who were with him at the house told paramedics on arrival that he had just taken a monster dose of Demerol (morphine), that continually slowed his breathing down until he stopped all together. Here’s a snippet from one paper.
“An Emergency Room source at UCLA hospital said Jackson aides told medics he had collapsed after an injection of potent Demerol — similar to morphine.
A Jacko source said: “Shortly after taking the Demerol he started to experience slow shallow breathing.
“His breathing gradually got slower and slower until it stopped.”
does anyone care about his history of “alleged’ child molestation?
As a young performer, Michael was astonishing. In my mind, ‘Little’ Stevie Wonder is the only other that comes close.
Michael was born to entertain. It was his destiny. The entire family was talented, but Michael and perhaps Janet were true superstars. I feel sorry for him that he never got to have a normal childhood.
Ironically, his cds will probably jump off the shelves now. Walk into a record store and try to find a copy of Thriller. I bet they’re all out now.
RIP Michael.
Point taken GNM. I wasn’t necessarily bashing the guy, I guess I am looking at this situation as a critical social commentary.
Here is a severly troubled man who is only being remember for the amazing music he produced. He is being lauded like GW, Lincoln, Ghandi, and MLK and I think that is unfortunate. He was influential in the MUSICAL sphere, but there are plenty of people out there who have done more important things for our country and for our planet who don’t get recognized.
And if you are naive enough to believe he isn’t some kind of socio-path then this argument will be lost on you. While never convicted in court, he settled out of court for $22 million dollars with one of his accusers families. That doesn’t exactly scream innocence. Lest we not forget the baby-dangling incident either.
Look, he was an undeniable MUSICAL talent, no one can take that away from him, but he certainly was not a role model. I just don’t think he deserves the fanfare that he is receiving posthumously.
I found Michael Jackson quite entertaining.
King Harvest, if you are perplexed and puzzed by the fanfare, just consider how music shapes our lives and makes us smile. Michael’s music was awesome.
blmfldgirl, well said.
No question, he seemed a lost soul for the last couple of decades. I agree with others that given his early life it’s no surprise that he was so troubled as an adult. That doesn’t excuse any wrong he may have done, but maybe it helps people to have a bit of empathy for his own difficulties.
Regardless of any of that, the man was a genius, a bright shooting star across the night sky. He and his music thrilled and inspired me when I was a kid, and I cried this morning when I saw that he’d passed. I wish him a peaceful journey.
I unfortunately equate Michael Jackson with child molestation and can’t feel too bad that he’s gone. It is interesting to see the different light in which many of you saw him so perhaps there was a side to him I didn’t tap into while he was here.
I feel bad about Farrah…She fought the good fight against the cancer. RIP
What’s a record story?
So the little face-bleaching, spendthrift, child-molesting creep is dead. So what? Baristaville has nothing else to mourn for? There’s nothing else that should take precedence in folks’ thoughts and prayers?
Perhaps this is just the start of a truly slow news days. God but I hope so.
Spiro, I don’t disagree with you at all. Music has shaped my life and though I wasn’t a huge fan of Michael’s, I think 4 or 5 of his songs are excellent. I just think that we should be able to separate Michael as a musician from Michael as a person and realize he was not that amazing. The tributes should be praising his music and discussing how much his musical talents will be missed. Not how much he himself will missed, or how he was “such a good person”, because the bottom line is that he was not.
This is my favorite tribute to him so far…
“Jackson probably died of a broken heart and a broken soul… He was a victim of the drug of celebrity and he was never trained to wean himself off it.”
Public Enemy rapper Chuck D
Damn. Innocent until proven guilty…except for Baristanet’s usual right-wing nuts.
I’m not saying Jackson wasn’t creepy and bizarre, but how many times did the cops try to get him on child molestation, and it never worked. Could it be…it just didn’t happen?
Chuck D always had a way with words.
Damn, I’m bummed out that I missed them in Philly a couple of weeks ago. They did Nation of Millions with the Roots and Antibalas.
I think we mourn him as an icon of our time. Someone we listened to as a child and then danced to his music as a young adult. I was actually shocked at myself when I realized I had tears in my eyes yesterday afternoon after learning of his death. I guess it was a part of my childhood that was dying.
I believe when someone passes, either someone close to us, or someone famous, it is a natural reaction to remember the best of them not the worst.
Nor should the passing of Farrah Fawcett be yet another occasion for mock weeping and gnashing of teeth. One season of “Charlie’s Angels” does not make for a tears-worthy career, honest. Even if one also tosses in “The Burning Bed.”
She certainly wasn’t a paragon of parenting. Perhaps even would have been better off if she’d just stayed wed to Lee Majors. But for anyone to get so publicly upset about Fawcett and Jackson’s demises, it’s just reducing life to the depth and meaning of an article in “People,” and it says very little good about our culture to do so.
I remember when Jerry Garcia passed as the result of his own indulgences (surrounded as he was by enablers, too) and someone asked his daughter, “How do you feel now that rock has lost one of its father figures?” The baffled, pitiable child pointed out that for her, Jerry Garcia actually hadn’t ever been much of a father.
So we have Redmond O’Neal and Jackson’s supposed children (however they were conceived) left to contend with. One feels for them as they now have to finally and conclusively grow up (Redmond especially). But I also fear that they too, as they age, will only play purposely to coverage by “People” and its ilk, that they will assume that by virtue of their parents’ deaths they merit “celebrityhood” and will act accordingly. Meaning foolishly, self-destructively and altogether in the public eye.
Well King Harvest, if Jackson didn’t change pop music, no one did. I know this even though I never bought a single Jackson or Jackson 5 record.
People would not be turning out like this if he was just a lonely pedophile who worked in some non-descript job.
Still looking for the local angle.
Anyone?
Ah but, Spiro T., but Muchael Jackson was a seeming pedophile (who notably often claimed to in fact be lonely) who could also afford the best attorneys and also to lay huge cash settlements upon his apparent victims and their families. This is hardly the usual case.
So what may well distinguish him from run-of-mill pedophiles who just work in non-descript jobs is that his mischief was both more prominent and possibly even more dangerous to the public good. (All those idiots who kept on buying repackaging after repackaging of his music, for instance, therefore allowing him to continue in his life of wretched excess…) So few other pedophiles, after all, ever seem to be able to afford the option of raising their own brood of potential victims as others do prize chickens.
And all of this was facilitated by record royalties and appearance fees, some of which may even have been contributed by posters above. In this sense, even if only in this sense, so many may be culpable here.
I think my post above, Walter Mitty, summarizes the “local angle” at its very end, however tiny it really is.
Cathar, you’ve now shared nearly 500 words about a topic you derided the Baristas for bringing up. Care to make it 1,000?
cathar,
I’ve actually been putting off buying the re-release of Thriller (my cassette copy having bit the dust a decade ago) because I didn’t want to give the guy any money (however many pennies my purchase would have given him).
Now that it’s not the case, I will probably be among the throngs boosting his posthumous sales.
IF Michael was King-Of-Pop, what the “H” was Elvis?
Wasn’t Elvis the King of Rock and Roll?
Elvis was Elvis.
Understand, Mike coined his own title, Elvis did not.
So Elvis, like Madonna, is just that an AMAZING, single-name performer who, like the King of Pop, changed the world-wide cultural landscape.
(Don’t look for controversy where none exists…)
Still looking for the local angle. Anyone?
Michael Jackson actually graduated from Montclair. Okay, it was the one in Van Nuys, CA (other notable Montclair Prep alums include Frank Sinatra Jr and Cher). So there.
Sting – ‘King of Pain’
Tom Petty – ‘Good to be King’
Eric Clapton – ‘Riding with the King’
Roger Miller – ‘King of the Road’
Thin Lizzy – ‘Kings Call’
MB2,
Coined a title, not titled a song.
To this, Michael Jackson does not have a song called, “King of Pop” that I know of.
I wrote ‘alleged’ child molester…and how come the ‘unbiased’ media never uses the term ‘left wing nut’? Is anyone going to tell me that Pelosi, Reid, Sharpton, Clinton, Franken et al shouldn’t be characterized as ‘left wing nut’s…?
Years ago a friend won 2 tickets to see Michael Jackson at the Meadowlands Arena. Since the tickets were free I went too, mostly out of curiosity.
The frenzy of the crowd was unlike anything I had ever seen. The energy level was almost frightening. When Michael hit the stage the sound of the cheering and screaming crowd became painfully loud. You couldn’t even hear Micheal sing, but you could see his dance moves and they were completely mind-blowing.
Finally after a couple of songs the initial fervor of the audience subsided and the crowd became strangely subdued with normal level applause thereafter, but nothing which even approached their initial enthusiasm.
I was surprised that they weren’t up dancing and screaming for ever song, seemingly content to watch their hero in a more subdued fashion.
Geez, I remember tons of concerts where nobody sat for the entire show, most notably the Jethro Tull shows at MSG in the early 70′s. The crowd cheering and capering right along with dear Ian. Also J. Geils at the Miami Fronton (1971) was a 6 hour dance-fest with something like 10 encores.
It was weird seeing the initial torrent of appreciation followed by such a subdued finish. My feeling is most of the crowd was just there to see Michael and once seen they were content to sit quietly for the rest of the show.
He sold 750 Million albums. Nobody in our life time will ever do that (especially since people dont buy CD’s anymore) You can say he was an alleged child molestor, but not like O.J. was an “alleged murderer”. I do believe that he was wrongfully accused.
There are plenty of reasons to say that he was an odd person, but at one point in your life- you can remember yourself attempting the moon-walk.
Elvis was addicted to pain killers too, ya know
Damn. Innocent until proven guilty…except for Baristanet’s usual right-wing nuts.
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So anyone who calls Michael Jackson into question in any way is a right-wing nut? Geez, sure we’re not talking about Obama here?
Ice, the preferred compliment to “right-wing nut” is “left-wing loon”. If you don’t believe me, you need only listen to Fox promos for Bill O’Reilly’s show, or if you prefer WABC radio’s lead-ins for Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, or Mark Levin.
So, repeat after me — “right-wing nut”, “left-wing loon”.
I’ll be impressed, Cro, if Ice actually posts that he stands corrected after reading your post. He has to stop looking under rocks, first.
10 year old boys from all over the world can breath a sigh of relief now the MJ is no longer with us. Let’s call a spade a spade here.
Nothing but class Corzine, eh?
Wow.
RIP Ed, Farrah and Michael.
There’s a little too much implied criticism of Elvis above from a few posters. As Peter Guralnick’s two-volume bio of him makes clear, Elvis was an uncommonly generous, usually very likable individual. Not only is the story of him gifting with a car a cleaning woman whom he saw sitting daily at a bus stop a true story, but he took uncommon delight in personally writing his annual checks at Christmastime to Memphis-area charities and deserving individuals. I can’t think of much comparable about Jackson’s personal charitable efforts. (“We Are The World” is a slightly different, certainly very PR-oriented story.)
Both men, yes, had their every whim indulged to some extent. But Elvis had rather modest whims, which definitely did not include “children” mysteriously appearing as if by parthenogenesis, and his entourage genuinely seemed to love him, as their subsequent recollections indicate. I doubt very much that will prove the case with Jackson, and I’m sure that even as his corpse starts rotting a bit (no matter all that hyperbaric care he lavished on himself)several who “knew” him are already angling for book and magazine deals of the crassest sort.
Does anyone even know at this point if Jackson died testate? And given how precarious his finances are known to have been, one wonders how much will be left to distribute even if he did leave a will. Or who the likely rotters will be who’ll administer his estate and/or now get custody of his “children,” and how they’ll attempt to exploit their position. (I mean, no one trusts, say, Janet or LaToya to stop up, do they?)
Against all this, the likely modest estate issues re Farrah and even the criminality of Redmond O’Neal amount to a hill of beans.
Whatever we might think of him as a person, MJ was astonishingly talented.
I agree Walleroo, Michael Jordan was in a class by himself. In spite of his gambling issues and marital infidelities, he was as entertaining as hell to watch!
Some of us, in light of the great Black athletes, hold Mr. Jordan in very low regard for his failure to endorse Harvey Gantt.
Jordon’s weak, corporate-owned ass reply: “Republicans Wear Sneakers Too.”
Gantt was running against Jess Helms.
Jordan is a bum.
I hate him.
Somehow, walleroo, I have an awful lot of trouble imagining you boogieing round your living room or den to “Thriller.” Or even dancing cheek to cheek with Mrs. walleroo (should there even be one) to “She’s Out Of My Life.”
Lots and lots of speculation. I guess it depends which “experts” you listen to and on what channel or in which newspaper.
But you asked for a example of MJ’s generosity and I can give you one. Most people know he bought the rights to the Beatles’ music, for a “mere” $78 million. What many people don’t know is that the Beatles held the rights to Little Richard’s music. When Jackson bought the Beatles music, he gave the rights to Little Richard’s back to LR. That’s the kind of guy he was.
As for the other questions:
1. There are rumors that the mother of his first two children (Deborah Rowe) wants to take custody. Whether that will happen is anyone’s guess.
2. There is also some speculation that Michael was not the sperm donor of the aforementioned children. That is was actually a white friend of his who remains unnamed. That might explain the blonde hair and blue eyes.
3. According to Donald Trump, who claims he was a close friend of Jackson’s (who knew?), with all the people buying up Jackson memorabilia and recordings, “the debt will be paid off in a week’s time.” We shall see.
Enough for now. This is why I turned off the news.
alright, Cro…I never heard that term but thanks…from now on I’ll lovingly refer to you, spiro, mike 91 and jerseygurl as ‘left wing loons’….i like that sound left wing loons.
Sure Ice, no problem, considering that, to you, everyone to the left of SC Gov. Mark Sanford is a left wing loon.
Cathar, affording us all a deep and candid insight into the depths of his tortured soul, wrote of the passing of pop culture icon Michael Jackson:
“So the little face-bleaching, spendthrift, child-molesting creep is dead. So what? Baristaville has nothing else to mourn for? There’s nothing else that should take precedence in folks’ thoughts and prayers? Perhaps this is just the start of a truly slow news days. God but I hope so.”
And of the death of 70′s pinup Farah Fawcett and Grateful Dead majordomo wrote,
“She certainly wasn’t a paragon of parenting. Perhaps even would have been better off if she’d just stayed wed to Lee Majors. But for anyone to get so publicly upset about Fawcett and Jackson’s demises, it’s just reducing life to the depth and meaning of an article in “People,” and it says very little good about our culture to do so”
and
“I remember when Jerry Garcia passed as the result of his own indulgences (surrounded as he was by enablers, too) and someone asked his daughter, “How do you feel now that rock has lost one of its father figures?” The baffled, pitiable child pointed out that for her, Jerry Garcia actually hadn’t ever been much of a father.”
Thank you so much, Mr. Cathar sir, for sharing this with thousands of Barista readers. We all understand so much better now. Today’s screed from your pathetic, venomous pen explains so much.
Now, go watch your Anne Coulter dvd’s.
Michael Jordan died too? Who knew!
Michael Jackson was a brilliant musician and performer, and a shining example of how wrong you can go if you never learn to deal with your issues or control your appetites.
Spiro – did anyone tell u you’re cute when you get angry
I love Ann Coulter, Courson. Much more than I do yoga nutters like yourself or child molesters and drug addicts and non-parents (MJ may not have even been able to father children in the conventional way) who suddenly turn up with “children” to dangerously dangle off balconies. So sue me.
And my musical heroes, such as Buck Owens and Jerry Butler and Arvo Part, generally live to a ripe old age without benefit of drug addiction or hyperbaric chambers. But y’all have a nice, sour day anyway.
And even get a shout out in great songs:
“A dinosaur Victrola list’ning to Buck Owens.
Do do do lookin out my back door…”
Not angry at all, Ice, but always cute, according to my wife.
“I love Ann Coulter, Courson. Much more than I do yoga nutters like yourself or child molesters …”
Why, of course you do, Mr. Cathar sir! The practice of yoga might – just maybe – lead you to some self-knowledge, and I (and everybody else who reads your, uh, writings) understand how bitterly unpalatable and disappointing that would be!
Anyhow, I don’t know how or if you’re celebrating the 40th anniversary of the Stonewall uprising, but I’m hoping you have a good day too: leave your hidey-hole and go out and trap some nice flies and maybe a juicy lizard or two before slithering off to attend Mass.
Cathar, I thought you and I liked Hank Williams Sr.
Died young from alcohol and drugs, had a messed up home life, still gave us great music.
And, Cathar, we should also not forget Keith Whitley or Modest Mussorgsky. Substance abuse, followed by early death, but their great music still lives on. It’s not just rock and pop stars who have this fate, I am sure you would agree.
And let’s not forget Johnny Cash.
Who the heck names their kinds Prince Michael I and Prince Michael II? What an ego he must have had. I just don’t share in the adoration. Sorry.
Well, Nellie, the disgraced governor of SC seems to think he’s another King David!
‘Thriller’ was good background disco mood music, not much more. And why did he put out the 14-minute video for the title song just in time for Christmas?? It premiered on MTV on December 2, 1983, I remember it well. I was expecting some high-tech cutting-edge extravanganza and got a mock horror movie! Well, I hadn’t heard the song before then.
It was six weeks too late.