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1. POSTED BY Generically named Mike  |  October 27, 2009 @ 10:46 am

   Man, could I go for a hysteria-fueled paid week off of work.
   If anyone catches the flu, let me know so I can come over. I’ll bring some tasty chicken soup and a box of tissues if you promise to sneeze in my general direction.
2. POSTED BY walleroo  |  October 27, 2009 @ 10:54 am

   Oh, yeah, that would be so fun! To sit home for a week, eating bon-bons! Or be out playing golf! Oh, gee, I hope I get swine flu, too!
3. POSTED BY Generically named Mike  |  October 27, 2009 @ 11:12 am

   Roo,
   I’ve already got seasonal allergies that give me migraine class headaches, congestion that Zyrtec barely keeps in check and a cough that lasts from mid-October to the beginning of December.
   A week of doctor prescribed bed-rest that won’t cost me all 5 sick days in one shot would be well worth the fever and nausea, IMO.
4. POSTED BY 13% Annual Tax Increas  |  October 27, 2009 @ 11:34 am

   My 4-year old son was inoculated last Tuesday? Were your children?
   My wife and I are looking for a clinic that has the vaccine for adults, but so far, have not had any success.
5. POSTED BY Right of Center™  |  October 27, 2009 @ 11:36 am

   The same administration that barely a month ago told you the “bulk of the vaccine” would be available by Oct 15th, now has no idea.
   But they’ve got a grip on universal health care, don’t you worry about that.
6. POSTED BY Generically named Mike  |  October 27, 2009 @ 11:42 am

   ROC,
   Because, as anyone who has ever worked for a company that manufactures something knows, manufacturing delays are always the direct fault of management and never ever have anything to do with production level slip-ups (like faulty material or delay in receiving a shipment from a vendor).
   Yep, it’s all Obama and the government’s fault that a private company is having production issues.
7. POSTED BY 13% Annual Tax Increas  |  October 27, 2009 @ 11:48 am

   The big issue and I doubt you can blame any politician for doing anything wrong besides overpromising, is that H1N1 is expected to peak in November. Season flu typically peaks in late January to early February. The demand is just too high for too short a period of manufacturing supply time. My advice to all is to get a lot of sleep, keep your house cooler than usual, eat healthy and wash your friggin’ hands a lot. Even if you can’t get the vaccine until December, which is becoming more and more likely, if you haven’t caught the swine flu, it still makes sense to get the vaccine to develop antibodies to fight it. Chances are, this flu is going to impact at least 40% of the population. Do your best to be part of the 60% and for the love of your country, get the vaccine if it is available. Stop living in fear.
8. POSTED BY Right of Center™  |  October 27, 2009 @ 11:51 am

   “The demand is just too high for too short a period of manufacturing supply time. ”
   It’s soooo obvious that local bloggers (and NPR) can say this over and over (like a mantra). Yet not so obvious that the Secretary For Health and Human Services or the Director of the Centers for Disease Control knew this.
9. POSTED BY 13% Annual Tax Increas  |  October 27, 2009 @ 11:57 am

   ROC,
   No amount of knowledge was going to increase the manufacturing capacity, nor would throwing dollars at it, for the most part. Sometimes, there is little the government can do, which I thought was your M.O. up until now.
10. POSTED BY Right of Center™  |  October 27, 2009 @ 12:01 pm

    “Sometimes, there is little the government can do, ”
    Except for make false statements then.
    Everything you say seems obvious, painfully obvious, common sense even. Yet, yet, madame Secretary said delivery by mid October nonetheless.
    So if it’s so obvious what are the options here:
    1. she was lying.
    2. she was clueless.
    I’d bet #2. And these same clueless people would like to manage your healthcare in totality.
11. POSTED BY FrigginRaccoon  |  October 27, 2009 @ 12:44 pm

    Does everything have to be about politics on this board?
    My five year old has a temp of 103 right now.
    There will be many more.
    It would be nice to keep this thread about the flu in our community, and how we’re going to get through it.
12. POSTED BY Generically named Mike  |  October 27, 2009 @ 12:46 pm

    It would be nice to keep this thread about the flu in our community, and how we’re going to get through it.
    That would be a very short thread. The answer to “how we’re going to get through it” is: The same way we do every year.
    I hope your child feels better soon. I would recommend stocking up on the chicken broth and pedialite (sp?) if you haven’t done so yet.
13. POSTED BY Right of Center™  |  October 27, 2009 @ 12:54 pm

    Friggin,
    Why do you talk about that and we’ll talk about this. You know you are not obligated to read everyone’s post, right?
    And were on topic so what’s it to you?
14. POSTED BY profwilliams  |  October 27, 2009 @ 12:56 pm

    Sadly, this has showed that my call for an American Universal Health Plan is a bad idea.
    I felt confident when the early tales of millions of doses were first stated. Confident.
    Now, I feel dumb.
    And why, even after Cash for Clunkers, did I think the promised millions of doses were truthful?
    Because, despite my problems with Obama and the Gov. in general, I never thought they’d lie about the availability of a vaccination.
    But they did.
    (Sorry, they over-estimated the number of, and speed with which the eggs would replicate the virus… They lied…)
    So, I am now firmly in the hands of the free market, believing that our best Health care will come only from those who have a reason– cash, lawsuits– to provide it.
    Unfortunately, the Gov. does not.
    They can though, create a kick-ass Army!!!
15. POSTED BY Wally  |  October 27, 2009 @ 1:14 pm

    “although Montclair got just enough to inoculate emergency responders yesterday.”
    I heard that Montclair also had enough for the friends and family of the politically connected.
16. POSTED BY oliver  |  October 27, 2009 @ 1:48 pm

    Stu, where did you take your child for the swine flu vaccine?
17. POSTED BY 13% Annual Tax Increas  |  October 27, 2009 @ 2:15 pm

    Oliver,
    We go to the greatest pediatrician around here, where the doctors don’t sugar coat the answers nor do they try to fix things that aren’t broken. My son used to have terrible toenail fungus and they said it would go away on its own in the next few months. It did. By the way, my son received the inhalant version, and survived it just fine. He was the first person to get it in their office. Both Dr. Charlie and Coy are wonderful as is their very flexible office staff. Of course, if you don’t have thick skin and want to blame all of your children’s issues on some inexplicable disorder, then they are not the place for you. Nor if you want drugs to treat every little issue, most of which tend to heal up on their own. Also, Dr. Charlie has already taken three tours of Iraq and was profiled in the Star Ledger for his valor. The guy is a real trip and has seen it all. They definitely practice medicine the old way over there.
    http://maps.google.com/maps/place?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=dr.+coy+west+orange+nj&fb=1&gl=us&hq=dr.+coy&hnear=west+orange+nj&cid=4291293189983885446
18. POSTED BY Mike91  |  October 27, 2009 @ 2:37 pm

    Sorry, they over-estimated the number of, and speed with which the eggs would replicate the virus… They lied…
    So unforseen event = lying. Excellent!
    So, I am now firmly in the hands of the free market, believing that our best Health care will come only from those who have a reason– cash, lawsuits– to provide it.
    As if you were ever going to support anything Obama does. By the way who’s Secretary of State again?
    And by the way, “government run health care” has a 94% satisfaction rate among people who use it.
19. POSTED BY cain  |  October 27, 2009 @ 2:49 pm

    I would recommend stocking up on the chicken broth and pedialite (sp?) if you haven’t done so yet.
    This remark is worthy of the most insensitive of boobs.
20. POSTED BY 13% Annual Tax Increas  |  October 27, 2009 @ 2:55 pm

    Pedialite is not a bad idea for kids suffering from diarrhea and vomitting, but gatorade is probably just as affective and the kids seem to like it a lot more. Really, anything with liquid in it is the key. Soup is great because it clears the sinuses, albeit only temporarily unfortunately.
21. POSTED BY Mrs. Martta123  |  October 27, 2009 @ 2:59 pm

    I call bullcrap on running out of vaccine. The flu was no secret. People have been talking about it for close to a year. You could not pick up a magazine or newspaper or turn on a TV or radio without hearing about H1N1 or seasonal flu. Are you sure you want these folks running national healthcare?
22. POSTED BY jerseygurl  |  October 27, 2009 @ 3:04 pm

    What people? And who is talking about running healthcare? The current proposals have more to do with insurance reform. They haven’t exactly “run out of” the vaccine, it’s just taking longer to make than projected. But let’s keep shrieking about how badly Obama is handling EVERYTHING!!! Bush would have done much better. It only took him 4 days to realize New Orleans was a disaster that needed some attention.
23. POSTED BY tudlow  |  October 27, 2009 @ 4:03 pm

    That’s ridiculous logic. If CDC officials would have picked up a newspaper and read about H1N1, then they would have had the vaccine ready! Because it’s easy to manufacture hundreds of millions of doses of vaccine for a novel virus! Hell, we should have been cooking it up in our own kitchens!
24. POSTED BY Generically named Mike  |  October 27, 2009 @ 4:06 pm

    This remark is worthy of the most insensitive of boobs.
    What part of that wholely sincere recommendation was insensitive?
    Drinking lots of fluids is key to helping combat the flu or common cold and chicken broth is a good way to get something of substance into your kid when they are probably feeling nausiated and/or have a sore throat from coughing a lot (link).
25. POSTED BY Kay  |  October 27, 2009 @ 4:52 pm

    May I just point out that the swine flu initially surfaced in April. Have they been working diligently since then to develop the vaccine?
    Things do take time.
    However, proclamations should not be made in a vacuum. Don’t say things such as “I will cut your taxes by 10%” or “You will have a vaccine by November 1″ if you can’t follow through on it. Unless there is interference by an Act of God!
    By the way, my kids’ dr. said the big difference is the timing of the virus appearance and that it’s a completely new strain (vastly different from seasonal). So whereas Seasonal is different every year it is similar enough that a person’s own antibodies help fight it off anyway. Swine is so different that there’s no experience with it at all. Thus people get more sick, and it develops into more serious other complications.
    Our pediatrician also said that only government officials were getting the swine flu vaccine, (?)and they didn’t even have any seasonal flu vaccine available at that time.
    GnM is right: liquids… rest… handwashing… Lysol sprayed liberally all over the entire house…
26. POSTED BY ruby  |  October 27, 2009 @ 6:32 pm

    I want to get the H1N1 shots for both my kids (ages 3 yrs & 6 months), but my pediatrician says they have no idea when they’ll get their supply in. (They were out of the seasonal flu shots until this past week, even though they had placed their orders a year ago…. it seems everything has been so delayed). We’re able to get the kids’ seasonal flu shots this week, but my Pediatrician told me if I could find another place for the H1N1 shots for the kids, to get them because they have no idea when theirs will arrive. I hear the schools will be getting them, but since my kids aren’t school age, that doesn’t help me. Also, clinics held at places like CVS, Walgreens, etc. is only for bigger kids (ages 9 & up usually). So does anyone have any ideas about other places for me to find them for my young kids? Are there any state/county wide plans for giving them? The shots, not the mist? Thanks!
27. POSTED BY lies&misdirection  |  October 27, 2009 @ 7:21 pm

    If Obama were really as powerful as he thinks he is, he would have stopped evolution and prevented the virus from mutating anyway.
    What a sad excuse for a leader!

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